[PEN-L:3861] RE: Childcare

1995-01-19 Thread bill mitchell
Justin said: >The question was whether publically provided care _could_ be adequate, or >good. Possibly privately provided care could be if properly funded--elite >private centers show that it can. But the university childcare examples >show that the the mere fact of public provision need not und

[PEN-L:3860] the causes of unemployment

1995-01-19 Thread Michael Perelman
How much do you think that the relative weights would be for two causes of unemployment: corporate rationalization and the export of jobs? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 916-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:3859] Re: Citron's rationality

1995-01-19 Thread Michael Perelman
I believe that the same broker sold San Jose into near bankruptcy around 1983. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 916-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:3858] exports

1995-01-19 Thread cns
Doug is certainly right about declining tariffs and non-tarriff barriers re: Grossman's drift toward protectionism." But can't we regard currency devaluations as "protectionist"? In the sense of protecting a country's exports as a whole, not particular export sectors. Mexico is the latest example.

[PEN-L:3857] RE: Childcare

1995-01-19 Thread Justin Schwartz
On Thu, 19 Jan 1995, Cotter_Cindy wrote: > In defense of the mysterious HG, who was willing to have the > government pay for child care but not provide it, hasn't the > superiority of government child care as described here in > many posts rested primarily on the fact that the government > can af

[PEN-L:3856] Re: Citron's rationality

1995-01-19 Thread Jim Devine
The leftish consensus around here is that the county to the south of L.A. went broke because (1) prop. 13 and other propositions reduced the county's ability to raise taxes, as did the the strong anti-tax movement among Orange County's middle-class and rich classes; (2) developers and corporations

[PEN-L:3855] Re: child care & the market

1995-01-19 Thread Teresa Amott
I think that pen-ler's may be interested in a little discussion I had with Teresa Amott (and I hope I'm not violating your privacy, Teresa!) In response to her comment on how good the US military's child-care system is these days, I said: it gives one an incentive to join the armed forces! To wh

[PEN-L:3854] Society for Socialist Studies annual conference. Message is 765 lines

1995-01-19 Thread VORST4
Learneds 1995: 3-6 June at UQAM in Montre%al The 1995 Learneds will be held at the Universite% du Que%bec a$ Montre%al. Our society dates are 3-6 June (Saturday-Tuesday). Patrick Bolland has agreed to coordinate the Montre%al local committee. David Mandel is our direct connection with UQAM. Th

[PEN-L:3853] RE: Childcare

1995-01-19 Thread shecker
>In defense of the mysterious HG, who was willing to have the >government pay for child care but not provide it, hasn't the >superiority of government child care as described here in >many posts rested primarily on the fact that the government >can afford to pay more? Is there some reason to beli

[PEN-L:3852] RE: Childcare

1995-01-19 Thread bill mitchell
Cindy said: >In defense of the mysterious HG, who was willing to have the >government pay for child care but not provide it, hasn't the >superiority of government child care as described here in >many posts rested primarily on the fact that the government >can afford to pay more? Is there some r

[PEN-L:3851] Re: child care & th

1995-01-19 Thread Paul Harrison
>Steve Hecker raises an important point about daycare: the cost of providing a >true living wage to daycare workers and getting high quality care for the kids >is more than most parents can pay. ... > >The problem with the cost of daycare is like the problem with the cost of >health care; they ar

[PEN-L:3850] RE: Childcare -Reply

1995-01-19 Thread Patrick Bond
Comrades, I second Cindy on this. (Sorry, a re-intro: I'm a social policy wonk just returned from South Africa, now based at Johns Hopkins School of Public Health.) Interestingly, around 1990 the SA Left came up with the neat slogan, "strong but slim state," in order to characterize a desired go

[PEN-L:3849] Re: New Party piece

1995-01-19 Thread Doug Henwood
At 10:42 AM 1/19/95, S. Lerner wrote: >Give em hell, Elaine! Hope to talk (and walk) New Party with you soon. Sally By the way - how is the NDP, the NP's ostensible model, doing these days? Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Left Business Observer 250 W 85 St New York NY 10024-3217 USA 212-874-402

[PEN-L:3848] trip to New Orleans?

1995-01-19 Thread Fred B. Moseley
Anyone out there interested in attending the Southern Economic Association meetings in New Orleans next November 18-20 and perhaps organizing a "radical" session? I have been asked by John Seigfreid of Vanderbilt, the incoming President of the SEA who is in charge of the program, to organize

[PEN-L:3847] Re: New Party piece

1995-01-19 Thread Eugene Coyle
Bob Fitch may write well on New York City but his thesis that big money deliberately drove industrial jobs out of NYC so as to provide space for office towers is absurd. Big Money wants both, it doesn't discard one profitable thing to make room for another.

[PEN-L:3846] RE: Childcare

1995-01-19 Thread Cotter_Cindy
In defense of the mysterious HG, who was willing to have the government pay for child care but not provide it, hasn't the superiority of government child care as described here in many posts rested primarily on the fact that the government can afford to pay more? Is there some reason to believe p

[PEN-L:3845] Re: child care & th

1995-01-19 Thread Peter.Dorman
Steve Hecker raises an important point about daycare: the cost of providing a true living wage to daycare workers and getting high quality care for the kids is more than most parents can pay. Here is a suggestion off the top of my head; tell me if there is anything to it The problem with the

[PEN-L:3844] Re: rationality

1995-01-19 Thread Marshall Feldman
>Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 11:35:33 -0800 >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Robin Hahnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >The essential issue, I believe, is whether or not particular social >institutions promote socially productive or socially unproductive >behavior. [I'm sure we could argue for a while abo

[PEN-L:3843] Re: rationality

1995-01-19 Thread kevin quinn
I agree completely: I'm playing right into their hands! The goofiness was just too hard to resist: ("Tall buildings, High interest rates": in this sequel to Bright Lights, Big City we get the bratpack's investment philosophy). Actually the larger causes of the OC thing are interesting: what Ci

[PEN-L:3842] Re: New Party piece

1995-01-19 Thread S. Lerner
Give em hell, Elaine! Hope to talk (and walk) New Party with you soon. Sally >Come'on Doug, play nice. In the same spirit that I took up >J. Case, I'm sure you don't mean CP as a term of endearment. >Play nice boys! There's some real politics here, so cut out >the red baiting bullshit. I think

[PEN-L:3841] Re: rationality

1995-01-19 Thread John E. Parsons
On Thursday, Jan 19, Kevin Quinn wrote... > Speaking of rationality, did people catch the WSJ article on Robert > Citron, Orange County's erstwhile Treasurer? Apparently he was > loony-tunes and had been for some time. When his huge bet that interest > rates would fall became questionable as rate

[PEN-L:3840] Re: child care & the market

1995-01-19 Thread shecker
>On another list, an irrepressible born-again market enthusiast we'll call >only H.G., after dismissing public jobs programs as "a joke" and "a waste >of money," declared that government should do no more than finance child >care, not provide it - provision being best left to private providers. In

[PEN-L:3839] re: rationality

1995-01-19 Thread Ross B. Emmett
I've been following the discussion about rationality and institutions with interest. While I don't have time to develop a full response, I'd like to point interested parties in the direction of Frank Knight's famous articles on "The Ethics of Competition," and "Ethics and the Economic Interpr

[PEN-L:3838] Re: rationality

1995-01-19 Thread kevin quinn
I agree with Jim that a full-blown homo economicus is nuts, because I think that "our" practices, properly articulated, would support this judgement. Speaking of rationality, did people catch the WSJ article on Robert Citron, Orange County's erstwhile Treasurer? Apparently he was loony-tunes

[PEN-L:3837] New party - and (fwd) FAIR ad in NYT

1995-01-19 Thread Trond Andresen
My pessimistic posting on the unfeasibility of a radical U.S. party gaining majority influence, due to (among other things) the media (and campaigning) situation in same country, is substantiated by the following, no? It is forwarded from another list. Trond Andresen - Begin Included Messa