[PEN-L:86] Waterworld

1995-08-02 Thread Louis N Proyect
Louis Proyect: "Waterworld", while no masterpiece, is much, much better than the critics would have you know. It is far superior to "Apollo 13", a universally acclaimed "summer movie". There is more going on here than meets the eye. I want to offer some highly speculative opinions about why t

[PEN-L:87] Re: (Fwd) Re: Re: (Fwd) Re: Abstract Labor

1995-08-02 Thread John R. Ernst
On Tue, 1 Aug 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >>John says: >> >>I am simply saying that quantities of abstract labor are known only via the >>prices. >> >>How? That is my simple question. >> >>Cheers, ajit sinha > >Fair enough. Take a price, assign a

[PEN-L:88] re: waterworld

1995-08-02 Thread Blair Sandler
Louis: thanks for your interesting comments on "Waterworld." It *is* curious that Costner doesn't allow his politics to manifest in his movies. As one who doesn't follow Hollywood, I thought Costner was a good liberal precisely because of his movies, especially "Dances with Wolves" and "Robin Hoo

[PEN-L:89] French nuclear tests - urgent!

1995-08-02 Thread Trond Andresen
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[PEN-L:90] re: waterworld

1995-08-02 Thread Michael Perelman
The producers of Burn showed it to the Panthers to get their evaluation at the time. Now I suppose that one should first check things out with the NRA or the bond market. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 916-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECT

[PEN-L:91] re: waterworld

1995-08-02 Thread Louis N Proyect
On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Blair Sandler wrote: > I have not seen Waterworld, but judging by trailers and reviews, > the pattern is similar. Now I am not simply anti-leadership. And > it has often been the case that revolutionary leaders have come > from bourgeois, elite, or privileged backgrounds. But

[PEN-L:92] re: Waterworld

1995-08-02 Thread Blair Sandler
In my last message about the contradictory political themes in these movies I forgot to make the obvious point that this is exactly what "greenwashing" is all about. When 75% of the population calls themselves "green," it's impossible simply to pretend that environmental problems don't exist (thou

[PEN-L:93] re: waterworld

1995-08-02 Thread Blair Sandler
Louis: I don't think you are "all wet"; perhaps just slightly damp. I think you correctly indicated some of the contradictory aspects of cultural struggle around class in this era. You explicitly stated your comments were "speculative," and I for one found them interesting and thoughtful. Blair

[PEN-L:94] Re[2]: dividend rate up

1995-08-02 Thread James Devine
Dean Foust writes>>This is extremely intriguing, given how the prophets of doom have warned that the low average yield on stocks is a harbinger of a market crash ... I'd be grateful if you could you share some of your statistical data. (In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a journalist for

[PEN-L:95] re: waterworld

1995-08-02 Thread MScoleman
I have not seen water world yet, but I did see dances with wolves and total recall. I think what happens, especially with conservative white men, is that there is a contradiction between their view of their role in the world and objective world conditions. The ecological destruction causing glob

[PEN-L:96] re: waterworld

1995-08-02 Thread Nathan Newman
On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Blair Sandler wrote: > Louis: thanks for your interesting comments on "Waterworld." It > *is* curious that Costner doesn't allow his politics to manifest > in his movies. As one who doesn't follow Hollywood, I thought > Costner was a good liberal precisely because of his mov

[PEN-L:98] re: waterworld

1995-08-02 Thread Jim Jaszewski
On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Michael Perelman wrote: > The producers of Burn showed it to the Panthers to get their evaluation at > the time. Now I suppose that one should first check things out with the > NRA or the bond market. Hnyuk, nyuk. (Am I reading this out of thread-order? We

[PEN-L:99] re: waterworld

1995-08-02 Thread Jim Jaszewski
On Wed, 2 Aug 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > These kinds of movies adopt a class/racial reality, and provide a role for > 'good' white men to lead the masses to victory of some sort. To me this is a > twentieth century version of something like the British bringing 'peace' to > India, or the

[PEN-L:97] Waterworld

1995-08-02 Thread Ron Galea
Maggie Coleman is right. What Louis and Blair have noted in Waterworld and DWW--the anti-establishmentarianism, the "strong man" mythos, the anarchistic and luddite romanticism (here seen in primitivist and ecologistic guise), *are* responses to recognitions of systematic malaise, even recogniti

[PEN-L:100] NetMall!

1995-08-02 Thread webmastr
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[PEN-L:101] licence to pollute?

1995-08-02 Thread Evan Jones - 448 - 3063
Dear pen-l'ers Rumours are that there is a 'licence to pollute' Act (an anti-anti-pollution act? ) before Congress. IS this right? Can anyone enligthen me? Evan Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]