[PEN-L:3086] CBA in evolutionary theory

1996-02-19 Thread Lisa Rogers
Ken Hanly wrote, regarding Problems in CBA: [snip] Surely it is important that a technique that is widely used in every area from forestry, to health care, to agriculture, to education should have some theoretical justification that holds water. It seems to me that there are all kinds of ideologic

[PEN-L:3085] Re: privatiz...

1996-02-19 Thread Eugene Coyle
I want to disagree with Maggie's second point and -- what is the same thing -- agree with an earlier poster, I think it was Michael M. Maggie wrote: 2. While it sounds like splitting hairs, I do think there is a difference in result between the government investing social security and the ind

[PEN-L:3084] Re: "Just Get a Job"

1996-02-19 Thread James Michael Craven
> Date sent: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 14:00:24 -0800 > Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "James Michael Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject:[PEN-L:2883] "Just Get a Job" > > Just Get a Job >

[PEN-L:3083] Re: privatiz...

1996-02-19 Thread MScoleman
1. One effect of having the trillions from social security available as a sort of forced investment is that the stock jockeys will use them for marginal, low return/high risk, investments while using corporate and other funds for quality/assured return investments. Rules governing the kind of in

[PEN-L:3082] Fw: Yale strikes (fwd)

1996-02-19 Thread D Shniad
Forwarded message: X-NUPop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:09:21 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael A. Lebowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: shniad Subject: Fw: Yale strikes -- From: Richard Wolff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:3081] Dog Bone Economy (fwd)

1996-02-19 Thread D Shniad
Jim Craiven, could you re-broadcast the dog bone story. I dumped my copy. Thanks, Sid Shniad Forwarded message: > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 19 16:18 PST 1996 > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:17:24 -0500 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subje

[PEN-L:3080] Re: Anthony Giddens

1996-02-19 Thread Justin Schwartz
On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Eric Nilsson wrote: > Good question. Justin's questions have made me understand now > Callinicos' concerns that Giddens has possibly collapsed all > structure into agency and, so structure might have 'disappeared' > in Giddens' theory. > > But it might all revolve around t

[PEN-L:3079] Re: Anthony Giddens

1996-02-19 Thread Mark Laffey
There is a nice discussion of MI in the context of rat choice marxism by Jutta Weldes in Theory and Society, 1989. She shows, in contrast to Eric's last message, that it is not a question of whether or not structures "make" people do things. Rather, the issue concerns the ways in which structure

[PEN-L:3078] Dow 15,000 anyone?

1996-02-19 Thread Doug Henwood
A review of the flow of funds spreadsheets yields the following (1995 data is first half at annualized rate): Since 1982, when the modern U.S. bull market in stocks began, there were -$224.3 billion in net new stock issues - that is, more stocks were retired through takeovers and buybacks than we

[PEN-L:3077] Re: Anthony Giddens

1996-02-19 Thread Eric Nilsson
Justin Schwartz writes, > Do we think that the claim that structures are patterns of human > interactions means that structures do not exist? If we don't thgink > that, how does the claim in question even begin to challenge the > structure-agency duality? Good question. Justin's qu

[PEN-L:3076] Re: privatizing Soc Sec

1996-02-19 Thread Robert Peter Burns
I can't recall the details now, but there was recently a huge scandal in Britain after hundreds of thousands of people lost money on private pension plans which had been sold to them by shady investment "advisors". I believe there was some kind of public inquiry which recommended that the whole pr

[PEN-L:3075] epistemology

1996-02-19 Thread JDevine
Blair writes: >>But you claim that I am agreeing with your anti-PoMo stance, so I could not let that go ... I should have said that "I theorize every commodity as having its own unique conditions of existence" [rather than making the ontological assertion that each commodity is unique]. I woul

[PEN-L:3074] Re: privatizing Soc Sec

1996-02-19 Thread Mike Meeropol
It seems to me that there are two issues being discussed at the same time that need to be disentangled. One is the idea of GOVERNMENT investing social security trust funds in equities from the private sector --- treating accumulated social security trust funds just as pension managers treat priva

[PEN-L:3073] Re: privatizing Soc Sec

1996-02-19 Thread Ellen Dannin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Rather than looking to Chile to find out whether investing social security funds in private markets, I'd look to New Zealand. It has seized on privatization avidly but has not had the sort of militarisation and dictatorship which clouds the picture in Chile. Jane Kelsey's new book called "Ec

[PEN-L:3072] Pentagon on the net (fwd)

1996-02-19 Thread D Shniad
Forwarded message: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 13:57:30 -0800 (PST) From: Phil Agre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentagon on the net Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-URL: http://communication.ucsd.edu/pagre/rre.html [I've removed the header, but the author's e-mail address is in the

[PEN-L:3071] Union pension fund investement

1996-02-19 Thread D Shniad
I haven't been keeping up with the details of the discussion about the privatization of the US Social Security system. But I noticed Doug Henwood's comments about how little union pension fund investments have done to better workers' lot in life. A couple of comments: First off, it's essent

[PEN-L:3070] Re: privatizing SS in CHILE

1996-02-19 Thread Doug Henwood
At 6:01 AM 2/19/96, Mike Meeropol wrote: >Does anyone out there know of any sources or any individuals who know the >REAL results of the privatizing of Social Security in Chile --- Chile went >through a terrible few years in 1982 and right after when the whole >"Pinochet miracle" unravelled and v

[PEN-L:3069] Re: privatizing Soc Sec

1996-02-19 Thread Doug Henwood
At 2:31 PM 2/18/96, Peter.Dorman wrote: >My first reaction to the NYT article on investing the SS trust fund in the >stock market was "uh-oh". I had visions of an equities crash sometime in the >next century creating a crisis for the system. But then it occurred to me >that if the trust fund we

[PEN-L:3068] Re: Maggie Coleman

1996-02-19 Thread Blair Sandler
Jeez, you guys, I don't know what's wrong with you. of COURSE, Dylan's SONG is not anti-labor, but the "Maggie's Farm" he describes is a HOTBED of wage slavery (and thanks to Thad for quoting the lyrics, just to make it clear). Jerry titled his message (in the subject line), "Back on Maggie's Farm

[PEN-L:3067] Re: privatizing SS in CHILE

1996-02-19 Thread Mike Meeropol
Michael Perelman wrote: > > Just read the rave reviews the right gives Pinochet for trailblazing this > form of "reform." > -- Does anyone out there know of any sources or any individuals who know the REAL results of the privatizing of Social Security in Chile --- Chile went through a terrible

[PEN-L:3066] Re: privatizing Soc Sec

1996-02-19 Thread Mike Meeropol
Don't want to sound like a one-trick pony, but ... Robert Peter Burns wrote: > > Eugene, I think the answer to this is: refuse to > sell the stocks back to the so-and-sos. Indeed, > the government would presumably need to hold on > to the stocks in order to generate the dividend > income needed

[PEN-L:3065] Re: manufacturing vs. services

1996-02-19 Thread Hugo Radice
Just one comeback to Justin: I don't think that Marx 'assumes' anything. He *observes* that commensuration takes place, that's all. Hugo Radice [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:3064] Re: Maggie C...

1996-02-19 Thread MScoleman
Thank you one and all for the warm welcome. I shall try to be 'insiteful' on pen-l and 'inciteful' at work ... but may end up just being my normal obnoxious self. maggie

[PEN-L:3063] Darwin-L

1996-02-19 Thread Lisa Rogers
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[PEN-L:3062] "The Labor Market Is Unlike Any Other"

1996-02-19 Thread Lisa Rogers
Peter wrote: There is a very interesting review article in the latest issue of Monthly Review [snip] "they found an inverse relationship between unemployment rates and the level of wages." [snip] This suggests that wage-cutting is not the route to lower unemployment, as the endle