[PEN-L:10191] Re: The EU: against wishful thinking

Bill Burgess wrote, > . . . I don't see the *significant* >difference implied by a position that replaces a traditional >committment to internationalism with a position where nationalist measures >are now seen as central to protecting working class interests (which I >understand to be your opinio

[PEN-L:10190] Fwd(2): From the Chicage Tribune (fwd)

> > Copyright Chicago Tribune > > INDONESIA'S INFORMATION HIGHWAY IS TOO FAST FOR SUHARTO > STRONGMAN SEEKS NET ROADBLOCKS > >President Suharto has controlled this sprawling island archipelago for 30 > years with a military fist tucked into the silky glove of progress. >Suharto's for

[PEN-L:10189] Re: The EU: against wishful thinking

I think the main difference, Bill, is that in the current era of crisis-driven restructuring, capital is intruding in and disturbing/ destroying a range of relationships that have previously been outside the purview of capital. (This, along with taking back many of the progressive social program

[PEN-L:10188] Re: EU, globalization and all that

I really like Bill Rosenberg's analogy and the conclusions it suggests are quite useful in my view.

[PEN-L:10187] Re: EU, globalization and all that

I think Rosenberg's think piece is exceedingly useful and on the mark.

[PEN-L:10186] influence?

Can anyone tell me how much influence the End of Work/Jobless Future thesis has within organized labor - U.S. and the rest of the world? Doug -- Doug Henwood Left Business Observer 250 W 85 St New York NY 10024-3217 USA +1-212-874-4020 voice +1-212-874-3137 fax email:

[PEN-L:10185] Re: The EU: against wishful thinking

Re Jerry's post below: I'm not interested in the epithets (well, not here, anyway). I thought one useful point of the discussion was identifying what has changed in capitalism and what has not, and how to make that judgement. If my characterizations on points is wrongheaded just say so and how. I

[PEN-L:10184] Re: The EU: against wishful thinking

Bill Burgess wrote: > Sid S. wrote; > > Are you serious about not seeing the difference between neoliberalism and > > "good old [postwar] capitalism"? > Yes. Of course there are differences, but I don't see the *significant* > difference implied by a position that replaces a traditional > committ

[PEN-L:10183] Re: The EU: against wishful thinking

Sid S. wrote; > > Are you serious about not seeing the difference between neoliberalism and > "good old [postwar] capitalism"? > Yes. Of course there are differences, but I don't see the *significant* difference implied by a position that replaces a traditional committment to internationalism w