[PEN-L:11964] Re: Big mouth

1997-08-26 Thread Max B. Sawicky
From: Louis N Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:11959] Re: Big mouth The biggest problem with "Law and Order" is that poverty as a causal explanation of crime is simply absent from the show. All of the gangsters, . . . You could take that two ways. You could take

[PEN-L:11966] Your taxes in action

1997-08-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Even from 5,000 feet up, I found evidence of American arrogance. The U.S. Army's First Division, the famous Big Red One, had been stationed at Lai Khe, the base near An Loc, until shortly before my arrival in Saigon. From my vantage point inside the helicopter, I looked

[PEN-L:11967] Re: Big mouth

1997-08-26 Thread Max B. Sawicky
I know people like this myself and it's not an easy thing for anybody to address. The afflicted have sufficient faculties to refuse care that is good for them and society and the legal rights to enforce such a refusal. Often the only thing they will let you do is give them money to piss

[PEN-L:11970] FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-08-26 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, MONDAY, AUGUST 25, 1997 The pay gap that separates college and high school educated workers favors only college graduates whose literacy skills are commensurate with their educational level, according to a report in the July issue of the BLS "Monthly Labor Review." The authors

[PEN-L:11971] Re: Big mouth

1997-08-26 Thread Louis Proyect
Max Sawicky: My brother was diagnosed chronic schizo when he was 20. Now he's 45. He's been living with his mother, unable to hold a job or take elementary care of himself. In front of a judge, he's as lucid as Socrates. Other times he talks incessantly about the Mafia, the FBI, and the CIA

[PEN-L:11977] Re: Big mouth

1997-08-26 Thread Louis Proyect
I would bet on something like the toilet-plunger case appearing on one or the other of the cop shows this fall. But cops and/or prosecutors will end up as good guys in that episode, because that is the only way that producers think they can sell the shows. -- Jim Cullen Louis P: This must be

[PEN-L:11980] Re: Swing (renamed: Surveys)

1997-08-26 Thread Tom Walker
Michael Perelman wrote, A question, such as the percentage favoring socialism, will be highly sensitive to the phrasing -- probably moreso at the time. And Wojtek Sokolowski replied, . . . In more general terms, surveys are rather useless, if not misleading, in testing opinions on

[PEN-L:11979] Sample Q statements

1997-08-26 Thread Tom Walker
1 Once the work week has been reduced sufficiently to minimize fatigue, no further improvements in productivity will be forthcoming from further reductions in work time. 2 Even if the entire workforce could be retrained for highly skilled, high-tech jobs there will never be enough

[PEN-L:11984] 25 Things to Know

1997-08-26 Thread James Michael Craven
Just came back from Browning to interview candidates for a postion here and will be going back. I thought I would share this with the pen-lers. This is from one of the BLackfeet Elders given to graduating high-school students. "25 Things you'll Need to Know Now That You've Graduated From

[PEN-L:11983] WS UPS

1997-08-26 Thread Doug Henwood
Sorry for this blizzard of posts; soon the skies will clear. My friend lead informant on Wall Street John Liscio says that Wall Street is quite alarmed by the Teamster victory; there's lots of talk of "watersheds" and the like. I'm guessing that this might be the most alarmed Wall Street has

[PEN-L:11987] Teamster Scandals and Republicans

1997-08-26 Thread Nathan Newman
= Teamster Scandals and Republicans or why the Republicans should just shut up = -- Nathan Newman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Union Education Project

[PEN-L:11988] Re: THE FIGHT IN THE FIELDS (fwd)

1997-08-26 Thread Max B. Sawicky
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:11986] Re: THE FIGHT IN THE FIELDS (fwd) . . . founder of Synanon. I can say a lot more about Chavez if anyone is interested, but it looks like his son-in-law who is now union president may be doing a lot better job in building

[PEN-L:11993] Re: Big mouth

1997-08-26 Thread J Cullen
This must be the same Jim Cullen who wrote the book on popular culture, right? How rewarding it is to have conversations with people who know what they are talking about. Glory to PEN-L. Sorry, I'm not that Jim Cullen. I'm editor of the Progressive Populist, a monthly magazine based in Austin,

[PEN-L:11996] Re: WS UPS

1997-08-26 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 97-08-27 00:35:56 EDT, Doug writes: I'm guessing that this might be the most alarmed Wall Street has been about labor in 20 years. This, imho, make the whole strike worthwhile. What I find most interesting about this is the amount of media attention garnered by the ups

[PEN-L:11965] Re: Big mouth

1997-08-26 Thread Louis Proyect
Max Sawicky: I know people like this myself and it's not an easy thing for anybody to address. The afflicted have sufficient faculties to refuse care that is good for them and society and the legal rights to enforce such a refusal. Often the only thing they will let you do is give them money

[PEN-L:11968] FW: Error Condition Re: FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-08-26 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, AUGUST 21, 1997 The Labor Department announced a schedule for the release of databases under its new Occupational Information Network (O*NET) -- a system for collecting, classifying, and disseminating information about requirements and characteristics of occupations

[PEN-L:11974] Re: Swing

1997-08-26 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 09:09 AM 8/25/97 -0700, Michael Perelman wrote: A question, such as the percentage favoring socialism, will be highly sensitive to the phrasing -- probably moreso at the time. Certainly, but the issue goes far beyond mere wording. It touches the problem of social value of the opinion or

[PEN-L:11976] Re: Big mouth

1997-08-26 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: J Cullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:11973] Re: Big mouth Law and Order, like nearly all cop shows, is inherently conservative, but at least it provides some nuances. It is likely to show judges throwing out evidence for what

[PEN-L:11978] UPS

1997-08-26 Thread Doug Henwood
Sorry to be running a little behind the times here, but I've been out of town a lot, and away from a computer. Just wondering: did it make any difference to the outcome of the strike that UPS is not a public company, with no outside shareholders to answer to? Doug

[PEN-L:11981] red, green, brown

1997-08-26 Thread Doug Henwood
Still catching up... John Gulick mentioned that that while the Teamster victory was important good, no one acknowledged that UPS represents the highly dispersed nature of American ecnomic space, rushing stuff all over the place using using fossil fuels on nature-killing roads. I just got back

[PEN-L:11990] FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-08-26 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, AUGUST 26, 1997 RELEASED TODAY: State unemployment rates were little changed in July, as 43 states recorded changes of 0.3 percentage point or less from June. The national jobless rate edged down to 4.8 percent in July. Nonfarm payroll employment increased in 30

[PEN-L:11992] Re: Swing (renamed: Surveys)

1997-08-26 Thread Louis N Proyect
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Tom Walker wrote: Another problem with a result like 25% favouring socialism is that it doesn't tell us anything else about what the survey respondents thought. The survey results actually come from Michael Denning's superb new book called the "Cultural Front", a study of

[PEN-L:11994] Re: Big mouth

1997-08-26 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 97-08-26 21:10:17 EDT, you write: By the way, I usually give anyone who ask at least some money. I used to do this, but it got sooo overwhelming. I tend to work strange hours (second and third shift) so I am on the subways at all hours. Sometimes, between work and home,

[PEN-L:11991] Lawnorder (was: big mouth)

1997-08-26 Thread James Devine
Is the show "Law Order" liberal or right-wing? It depends on your definition of "liberal." If you define "liberalism" in a way that emphasizes its similarities to leftism, then LO cannot be liberal. If, on the other hand, you define "liberalism" in a way that stresses its differences from

[PEN-L:11989] Re: Big mouth

1997-08-26 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 11:08 AM 8/25/97 -0700, Harry Cleaver wrote: On Mon, 25 Aug 1997, Louis Proyect wrote: I'm glad god blessed me with a big mouth. The TV show "Law and Order" is filming on the premises of Columbia Teachers College where I work. The show presents a right-wing version of the crime problem, as

[PEN-L:11985] Re: Big mouth

1997-08-26 Thread MIKEY
Friends, We don't wnat to miss the truth that it became public policy some time ago to throw people with serious mental illnesses out into the streets. I'm not saying that the institutions were good because they most certainly were not. But our society does precious little for the

[PEN-L:11986] Re: THE FIGHT IN THE FIELDS (fwd)

1997-08-26 Thread MIKEY
Friends, I will be interested to see the Chavez film. Chavez was a great leader but one with significant flaws, flaws which helped to nearly destroy the movement he did so much to build. He was fanatically paranoid, never let anyone other than himself make any decisions in the union,

[PEN-L:11982] Re: Big mouth

1997-08-26 Thread Michael Perelman
J Cullen wrote: As I recall, didn't Michael Moriarity, who used to play the chief prosecutor, walk off the show in a dispute with the producers because of the rightward tilt? Moriarity left because he was disgusted by the networks willingness to censor for sex and violence. Michael

[PEN-L:11975] Re: Big mouth

1997-08-26 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Welcome to the club. I had a brother who hung himself in a mental hospital in 1971. Frankly, anecdotes like this are about as useful as Ronald Reagan's anecdotes about welfare queens driving Cadillacs. . . . The problem we are dealing with is a social problem. The American people were

[PEN-L:11973] Re: Big mouth

1997-08-26 Thread J Cullen
Law and Order, like nearly all cop shows, is inherently conservative, but at least it provides some nuances. It is likely to show judges throwing out evidence for what appears to be capricious reasons, but the judges also occasionally tilt toward the prosecution. My major criticism is that the

[PEN-L:11969] FW: Error Condition Re: FW: Daily Report

1997-08-26 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, AUGUST 23, 1997: Experimental geometric mean version of the CPI continues to conform to expectations in its pattern of divergence with the official CPI, rising by 1.9 percent in the year ending in July. After testing the experimental measure for the remainder of this