Re: labor theory of value

1997-10-21 Thread HANLY
Shane says: Use-value is measured as a quantity of *dated* socially necessary labor time. The change in labor productivity from year x to year y is measured as quantity of use-value produced by t hours of socially necessary labor time in year y divided by the quantity of use-value produced

Re: global inequality data

1997-10-21 Thread Romain Kroes
Louis N Proyect wrote: The World Bank has excellent figures. (www.worldbank.org) On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Thad Williamson wrote: Dear Pen-L'rs, Does anyone know of an easy reference source for figures on the GLOBAL distribution of income and wealth, and historical trends in regard to

Re: labor theory of value

1997-10-21 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 11:57 AM 10/21/97 -0400, Jim Devine wrote, inter alia: "But as heavy industry develops the creation of real wealth depends less on labor time and on the quantity of labor utilized than on the power of mechanized agents which are set into motion during the labor time. The powerful

Re: The Lockean Proviso

1997-10-21 Thread HANLY
Gil writes: Some questions and comments on Ken's discussion of the "Lockean proviso" Mixing one's labor with land gave "natural" ownership claims to land according to Locke. However, there is as Nozick (the erstwhile libertarian) Erstwhile? What has he become? COMMENT: He has become a type

Re: labor theory of value

1997-10-21 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Date sent: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:31:08 -0400 (EDT) Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shane Mage) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: "labor theory of value" James and Ricardo seem to share the same vulgar-economics confusion: that

Re: global inequality data

1997-10-21 Thread Louis N Proyect
The World Bank has excellent figures. (www.worldbank.org) On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Thad Williamson wrote: Dear Pen-L'rs, Does anyone know of an easy reference source for figures on the GLOBAL distribution of income and wealth, and historical trends in regard to each? Both internet and paper

NYC Conference on Economic Violence, Oct.25

1997-10-21 Thread Thad Williamson
The Human Rights and Labor Solidarity Caucus at Union Theological Seminary presents: Reign of the Beast: Imperialism and Economic Violence in the Age of Global Capitalism. A one-day conference free and open to the public. Saturday October 25, noon-7 p.m., Union Theological Seminary, 3041

Growing Gap Between The Rich And Everybody Else (Canada)

1997-10-21 Thread Shawgi A. Tell
The CBS admitted on Thursday that "Despite the rosy picture of Canada's economy by Paul martin and other financial leaders, there's a disturbing drop in most Canadians' stadard of living. This has led to a growing gap between the rich and the rest of Canada." In 1989, the "average income"

Re: labor theory of value

1997-10-21 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Date sent: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:08:15 -0700 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: James Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:"labor theory of value" I think we can leave aside the biblical question as to whether Marx used the term

Re: labor theory of value

1997-10-21 Thread Shane Mage
James and Ricardo seem to share the same vulgar-economics confusion: that *value* is the same thing as *wealth*. Marx leaves no room for this confusion. Value *is* the mass of socially necessary labor time embodied in the social product of a given period. Wealth *is* the mass of use-value

Conference: Work, Difference and Social Change

1997-10-21 Thread Phil Kraft
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --3F4D7DD0540C0BE70B15E592 Apologies for Cross Postings! Conference May 8-10, 1998 Work, Difference and Social Change: New Perspectives on Work and Workers Two Decades after Braverman's_Labor and Monopoly Capital_ State

Re: The Lockean Proviso

1997-10-21 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 04:01 PM 10/20/97 -0400, Gil Skillman wrote, inter alia: Hmm. What can the "exchange-value" of a good (as opposed, for example, the good's "value") refer to, if not to price *in some sense*? The ability to fetch other goods that coincides, yet is analytically different from price. I can

global inequality data

1997-10-21 Thread Thad Williamson
Dear Pen-L'rs, Does anyone know of an easy reference source for figures on the GLOBAL distribution of income and wealth, and historical trends in regard to each? Both internet and paper references appreciated. thanks, Thad Thad Williamson National Center for Economic and Security Alternatives

FYI: Capital's Gain

1997-10-21 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Regarding a subject that has come up on this list, namely the current very high rates of profit and capital share of income in the U.S. and other advanced nations, the interested reader is referred to: http://epn.org/prospect/33/33mishfs.html This is an article by Larry Mishel of EPI (my

Re: The New Zealand Experiment

1997-10-21 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Those interested in the New Zealand Economic Experiment may be interested in a brief paper by Paul Dalziel, Reader in Economics, Department of Economics and Marketing, Lincoln University. I reproduce its abstract and conclusion below. Paul has not yet had it accepted for publication,

theory of societal wealth

1997-10-21 Thread James Devine
This missive (and the various threads it combines) probably belong on ope-l rather than on pen-l, but I don't belong to the former. Shane Mage writes: James and Ricardo seem to share the same vulgar- economics confusion: that *value* is the same thing as *wealth*. Marx leaves no room for this

Re: labor theory of value

1997-10-21 Thread Shane Mage
No explanation is required for a passage from a rough draft ("Rohentwurf") which its author chose not to use in the published version, which alone can be taken to represent his considered formulation. In any case, this passage is no evidence that, when he was writing his rough draft for Kapital,