Re: Postone on value form and capitalist production

1997-11-06 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
>Why do you say so casually that "no one has shown that >machinofacture makes direct >human labor superflous in the production of commodities - it just >changes the character of that labor"? Marx says as much in >the Grundrisse, as I showed in two previous missives. Here he writes >unequivocally

Re: Postone on value form and capitalist production

1997-11-06 Thread Gil Skillman
In response to the following passage by me, >> Now, ascribing goals to *systems* rather than conscious beings, as Postone >> does here, is necessarily a dicey proposition, but in any case it is clear >> that *capitalists* direct production, not *capitalism*. Capitalists want to >> make profits

effective protection: 5 minutes lecture

1997-11-06 Thread Fikret Ceyhun
--_-1333260898==_ Jim Devine wrote: >Yesterday, I heard Matt Miller, a US News & World Report reporter, say on >the radio that the US has only about 3 percent tariffs on foreign goods, >while the relevant trading partners in the "fast track" debate (like Chile) >have so

Re: Postone on value form and capitalist production

1997-11-06 Thread Ajit Sinha
At 22:22 5/11/97 -0500, Gil wrote: >I've just finished reading the chapter in Moishe Postone's _Time, Labor, and >Social Domination_ that Rakesh recommended to me, and it strikes me that >the point made above is emphatically borne out in Postone's (otherwise quite >insightful and interesting) ana

Re: Kodak Shifts ALOT of Jobs Overseas

1997-11-06 Thread Doug Henwood
Jeff St Clair is [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Robert Naiman wrote: > [P.S. I think there is more to this -- I think Kodak had a production shift > to Mexico in '94 and that there have been enviro problems associated with > this and that Jeff St. Clair knows about it. Anyone knows how

Re: effective protection

1997-11-06 Thread JayHecht
Jim, Noam Chomsky has made this point in Z and elsewhere. He believes that NAFTA is likely to subvert the economies of the South > the USs Jason

Kodak Shifts ALOT of Jobs Overseas

1997-11-06 Thread Robert Naiman
[P.S. I think there is more to this -- I think Kodak had a production shift to Mexico in '94 and that there have been enviro problems associated with this and that Jeff St. Clair knows about it. Anyone knows how to reach him? -rn] Kodak Shifts ALOT of Jobs Overseas Leading ALOT Member Shows J

Re: Postone on value form and capitalist production

1997-11-06 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
> Date sent: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 22:22:21 -0500 (EST) > Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: Gil Skillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Postone on value form and capitalist production > Skillman writes: > > > I've just finished reading

Re: Lenin-Stalin

1997-11-06 Thread Louis Proyect
Ricardo Duchesne: > >By the way, I was a student of Ellen Wood. I respect her. It is just >that she cannot let go of classical marxism even when reality no >longer >fits. I heard her on the radio (CBC) just this tuesday. There she >argued that capitalism was reaching its geographical limits,

Re: Lenin-Stalin

1997-11-06 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
> Date sent: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 13:02:19 -0500 > Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Re: Lenin-Stalin > Ricardo Duchesne: > First, let us get the history straight: Magna Carta cannot be "un

the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie

1997-11-06 Thread James Devine

FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-11-06 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. charset="iso-8859-1" BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 1997 RELEASED TODAY: BLS will hold a series of briefings to inform members of the public a

Re: Postone on value form and capitalist production

1997-11-06 Thread Gil Skillman
Hi, Ajit. You may well disagree with me, but it can't possibly be on the basis of the arguments you attribute to me below, because I don't make them. Ajit writes: >Though I have not read Postone's book under attack, I beg to disagree with >Gil's basic point that methodological individualism is t

effective protection

1997-11-06 Thread James Devine
Yesterday, I heard Matt Miller, a US News & World Report reporter, say on the radio that the US has only about 3 percent tariffs on foreign goods, while the relevant trading partners in the "fast track" debate (like Chile) have something like 25% tariffs. These are the official statistics, but wh

BUSINESS WEEK: Income Inequality kills the poor (fwd)

1997-11-06 Thread Michael Hoover
Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 01:36:08 -0800 > From: Nathan Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: BUSINESS WEEK: Income Inequality kills the poor > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Nov 10, 1997 > > THE UNHEALTHY U.S. INCOME GAP > It's linked to higher levels of illness > Ameri

Re: Postone on value form and capitalist production

1997-11-06 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
This post will not be about Postone, for Gil's criticism of value theory is quite confusing. He argues quite rightly that individual capitalists are motivated by profit, not surplus value. He notes as well that value operates at the level of the system as a whole: on the one hand, he reduces this