At 07:09 PM 12/2/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Not all of the Reform Party positions are compatible with
>progressive populism. But progressive populists ought to work with the
>Reformers on common issues such as opening the ballot to alternative
>parties, campaign finance reform, fair trade laws and enc
Bill Lear wrote,
>Although Anders, Doug, and Tom all object to Robin's passing on the
>question of laws and enforcement, I sympathize somewhat with Robin's
>position. To the extent that any of this can be planned in advance,
>there is, or should be, a certain freedom to see things in separate
>
At 01:53 PM 12/2/97 +, John wrote (replying to David):
>>I would think that communities would control their basic needs and interests
>>while joining in federations, both industrial and geographical, in order to
>>take advantage of economies of scale. At least that seems to be the crux of
>>
Wrote Anders:
>And then there are countless examples of how local control can stomp on
>minorities or dump a community's crap on its neighbors if it isn't strongly
>counterbalanced by larger entities. So, what's so great about starting
>locally, as opposed to starting locally _and_ regionally _a
At 10:41 PM 12/1/97 -0800, you wrote:
>John Gulick:
>>what about the partial
>>correlation between the production of surplus (and I'm not talking
>>about superfluous luxury goods here) and increasingly sophisticated
>>and specialized technical and industrial divisions of labor ?
>
>What about i
Continuing a discussion from several months ago, the opening of a BLS news
release published today. The full text is on the BLS web site at
http://stats.bls.gov/news.release/conemp.toc.htm.
I welcome discussion as to what it all means.
Doug
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Karl Marx:
The chapter on primitive accumulation [in Marx's Capital] claims no more
to trace the path by which, in Western Europe, the capitalist economic
order emerged from the womb of the feudal economic order. It therefore
presents the historical movement which, by divorcing the producers from
At 12:37 PM 12/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
>One great thing about participatory planning is it eliminates the free
>rider problem for expressing desires for public goods.
What about other free rider problems? And how exactly does it eliminate
the FR problem for expressing desires for public goods?
On Tuesday, December 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>but i want to know which of our current jobs are good ones, which
>could be mde into good ones (for our future good society), which would
>have to be eliminated altogether or done by machines, etc?
Do you think a good first step would be to conc
friends,
but i want to know which of our current jobs are good ones, wqhich could be mde
into good ones (for our future good society), whihc would have to be
eliminatedaltogether or done by machines, etc?
michael yates
James Devine wrote:
>(1) how does Shaikh measure the rate of profit? does he include the wages
>of unproductive labor as part of the numerator, as he does in other
>research? if so, I can't think of any reason why his "Marxian rate of
>profit" (in Fred Moseley's terms) would be correlated with th
Why is global warming the issue of issues?
1. The research shows that global warming as a result of
greenhouse gas emissions is happening faster than was previously
supposed; and that the ultimate effects will be determined by the rate
of increase of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere as well as t
michael yates wrote,
>but i want to know which of our current jobs are good ones, wqhich could be
mde
>into good ones (for our future good society), whihc would have to be
>eliminatedaltogether or done by machines, etc?
I suspect that most of the people on this list have jobs (or work) that th
William S. Lear wrote:
>
> On Mon, December 1, 1997 at 15:36:55 (-0800) Dave Markland writes:
> >[Hahnel and Albert's] work (especially _Looking Forward: Participatory
> >Economics in the 21st century_ and _The Political Economy of
> >Participatory Economics_) examines the shortcomings of markets
R. Anders Schneiderman wrote (responding to Robin Hahnel):
>>One great thing about participatory planning is it eliminates the free
>>rider problem for expressing desires for public goods.
>
>What about other free rider problems? And how exactly does it eliminate
>the FR problem for expressing d
At 08:11 PM 12/1/97 -0800, Michael Eisenscher wrote:
>I spent part of the day looking for the entirety of that quote from Gompers,
>but did not find it. I'm sure someone out there has it at hand. But I did
>find the following Gompersian wisdom:
>"The aim of our unions is to improve the standar
Robin Hahnel:
>>>Enforcement? I'm an economist. Ask lawyers and criminologists about a
>>>desirable system of law enforcement.
(This reminds me of an old joke. The punch line is "You vant bread? Go bang
a baker!")
Anders Schneiderman:
>>Er, no. If you're proposing this as a serious alternativ
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THE PROGRESSIVE POPULIST:
A MONTHLY JOURNAL OF THE HEARTLAND
December 1997 -- Volume 3, Number 12
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EDITORIAL
Fast Track is Down,
But the Game's Not Over
The people won a round l
On Tue, December 2, 1997 at 12:37:26 (-0500) Robin Hahnel writes:
>
>One great thing about participatory planning is it eliminates the free
>rider problem for expressing desires for public goods. Laws?
>Enforcement? I'm an economist. Ask lawyers and criminologists about a
>desirable system of law
If workers shut down a factory or a whole sector of the economy
in the course of waging the struggle for their rights they soon
find that their struggle reaches the limits imposed by the
capitalist system. These limits are based on the private
ownership of property and the political power it wiel
Doug Henwood wrote,
>Continuing a discussion from several months ago, the opening of a BLS news
>release published today. The full text is on the BLS web site at
>http://stats.bls.gov/news.release/conemp.toc.htm.
This is good news. It gives the lie to hype about "job shift" and the
"entrepreneur
Perhaps I should have made the point explicit. Tom alluded to Gomper's oft
cited speech in which he describes labor's aspirations as wanting "more."
Rarely do those who use the reference actually provide the entire quote from
which "more" is taken. I tried to dig it up, but could not. The quote
I am left architecturally speechless -- more or less.
At 12:05 AM 12/3/97 -0800, Tom Walker wrote:
>Michael Eisenscher wrote,
>
>>I spent part of the day looking for the entirety of that quote from Gompers,
>>but did not find it. . .
>
>Mies van der Rohe is credited with having said "Less is mor
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