[PEN-L:4646] Re: Re: Re: War 'Public Relations,' or, 'Kuwaiti Babi

1999-03-29 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Paul, Maybe this is just terribly naive, but what would be wrong with the autonomy proposal (with NATO troops on the ground and enforcing) that was made at Rambouillet? Seems better than either side having more or less control and engaging in slaughter/removal, etc., if extremely imperfect.

[PEN-L:4645] Re: On Military Keynesianism/ generic imperialistmilitarism

1999-03-29 Thread Charles Brown
Max Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/99 01:02PM Military conflicts are not necessarily the best way to get more funds allocated to hardware RD. In fact, the debate for more hardware/RD had already been decided before the Kosovo affair. By supporting anti-missile defense, Clinton and the

[PEN-L:4644] RE: Re: On Military Keynesianism

1999-03-29 Thread Max Sawicky
You neglected the lead time factor. Military Keynesianism involves first the depletion of inventory and then the replacement phase later. Armed conflicts accelerates this cycle. One might guess from this that the series of conflicts since 1986 -- Grenada, Middle East, Gulf War, Iraqi

[PEN-L:4643] Re: Re: War 'Public Relations,' or, 'Kuwaiti Babi

1999-03-29 Thread Paul Phillips
Barkley, Let me ask you the question. Should the Serbs retreat and stop trying to oust the KLA and their Albanian supporters? You realize I know that that would bring about the extermination of the Serbs in Kosovo. Once the bombing started what alternative did the Serbs have? Paul Paul

[PEN-L:4642] Re: On Military Keynesianism

1999-03-29 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
Max Sawicky wrote: A few factoids-cum-notes, none of which bear on whether NATO should be in Yugoslavia: 1. Since the mid-80's the economic policy of the U.S. cannot be said to conform to any sort of military Keynesianism, since the basic drive has been for deficit reduction.

[PEN-L:4640] On Military Keynesianism

1999-03-29 Thread Louis Proyect
Max wrote: 6. Military Keynesianism may have meant something back in the 1950's, or in 1962 when defense/GDP was near ten percent. It is next to impossible to figure out the real motives behind intervention in the Balkans, since American foreign policy decisions are made in secret. That was

[PEN-L:4638] Re: War 'Public Relations,' or, 'Kuwaiti Babies Torn fromIncubators'

1999-03-29 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Yoshie, I am someone who opposes the US actions in Kosovo and who (unfortunately accurately) forecast that the bombing would bring about the very humanitarian catastrophe that it was allegedly implemented to prevent. I also agree with much of your analysis of the reasons for the

[PEN-L:4637] job announcement -editor of left economics magazine

1999-03-29 Thread Ellen Frank
Job Opening Editor Dollars and Sense, the 25-year-old progressive economics magazine based in Boston, seeks a coeditor who is comfortable working in a collectively run environment. As well as publishing a growing, 8,500 circulation bimonthly, Dollars and Sense runs an economic news

[PEN-L:4634] Mass graves hold the secrets of

1999-03-29 Thread Frank Durgin
From Eectronic Telegraph Mass graves hold the secrets of American race massacre By James Langton in New York

[PEN-L:4641] BLS Daily Report

1999-03-29 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --_=_NextPart_000_01BE7A17.D6207380 BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, MARCH 26, 1999 New claims for UI benefits fell 10,000, to a seasonally adjusted 289,000, in

[PEN-L:4656] Kosovo FWd

1999-03-29 Thread Gar Lipow
Look at the following: An interesting similarity to the stuff Doug posted from the Trotskyite web paper -- fascinating analysis once you filter out the boiler plate. In this case the boilerplate is not Trotksyite blather but the assumption U.S. intentions are always virtuous... I of course am

[PEN-L:4655] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: On Military Keynesianism

1999-03-29 Thread Jim Devine
Max writes: Oh. Well, if the Fed budget stays as high as 20 percent of GDP, then the military budget would still be quite a bit smaller than it was in 1986, and still a shadow of itself in 1960, relative to GDP. Which gives you an idea of how far we have to go to get back to military

[PEN-L:4654] The Budget and Kosovo

1999-03-29 Thread Michael Perelman
The Repugs are passing a budget. I have not heard much about it. I assume that it is bad. Might the budget be the quid for their quo in accepting Clinton's leadership in Kosovo, or do they just want to let him hang himself with this policy, which will probably fail? -- Michael Perelman

[PEN-L:4652] RE: Re: RE: Re: On Military Keynesianism

1999-03-29 Thread Max Sawicky
By 2003, MK will be in full swing with military expenditure again at 25% of GDP. This would make military spending larger than the entire current Federal budget. It is as crazy as anything said on PEN-L this past week. Which says a lot. I meant to say 25% of the Federal

[PEN-L:4651] Kosovo: Internet Information Resources

1999-03-29 Thread Nathan Newman
Following in a list of resources on Kosovo from the Red Rock Eaters list, a general Internet information list whose moderator is a very progressive guy. Interesting note at the beginning as well. -- Nathan Newman -Original Message- From: Phil Agre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Red Rock Eater

[PEN-L:4650] Re: RE: Re: On Military Keynesianism

1999-03-29 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
Max Sawicky wrote: In that sense, your are correct to observe that its role has shifted from domestic economic stimulant to global geopolitical weaponry. But the very nature of war has changed, the link between economic warfare and physical conflicts has become continuous. Whatever

[PEN-L:4649] Re: On Military Keynesianism

1999-03-29 Thread Michael Perelman
Max's note on military Keynesianism brings up a useful point. Back in the good old days, military Keynesianism had a Keynesian component. In other words, the idea was to create an economy with a solid employment base. Militarism was a convenient, albeit not courageous, means of accomplishing

[PEN-L:4647] BLS Daily Report

1999-03-29 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --_=_NextPart_000_01BE7A35.0CF61900 BLS DAILY REPORT, MONDAY, MARCH 29, 1999 The lack of a specific, fixed definition of contingent workers could

[PEN-L:4648] Re: RE: Re: On Military Keynesianism

1999-03-29 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
Max Sawicky wrote: By 2003, MK will be in full swing with military expenditure again at 25% of GDP. This would make military spending larger than the entire current Federal budget. It is as crazy as anything said on PEN-L this past week. Which says a lot. I meant to say 25% of the