Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: "OPEC has risen again"

2000-09-29 Thread Chris Burford
At 16:46 29/09/00 +0800, you wrote: >Totally uninformed. To be totally uninformed must be as difficult a goal as to be totally informed. >Are taxes in Europe specified as a fixed amount >of physical oil or as a percentage of the value of oil? kj khoo is at least not claiming to be total

RE: Re: (Fwd) US savings rate drops to record low

2000-09-29 Thread Lisa & Ian Murray
> Is this a sign? If so of what? Remember Keynes. If savings=investment, then the US economy is eating its own future. Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] The equivalence elides the "direction" of causality. If investment drives growth and profitability [a la Minsky's

David Bacon on globalization

2000-09-29 Thread Michael Perelman
David Bacon's work is usually excellent, but I enjoyed this one more than most. Subject: national security or international solidarity Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:25:22 -0700 From: David Bacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Recipient List Suppressed:; NATIONAL SEC

Re: War spending and prosperity

2000-09-29 Thread Michael Perelman
Yes, the voice recognition technology can lead to great creativity. Jim Devine wrote: > At 02:25 PM 9/29/00 -0700, you wrote: > >Jim, I agree with you that its suspending that counts. The advantage of > >military > >spending is that it does not cut in to the markets of the typical > >corporatio

Re: (Fwd) US savings rate drops to record low

2000-09-29 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2518] (Fwd) US savings rate drops to recor, el 29 Sep 00, a las 14:43, Paul Phillips dijo: > Is this a sign? If so of what? Remember Keynes. If savings=investment, then the US economy is eating its own future. Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Re: War spending and prosperity

2000-09-29 Thread Jim Devine
At 02:25 PM 9/29/00 -0700, you wrote: >Jim, I agree with you that its suspending that counts. The advantage of >military >spending is that it does not cut in to the markets of the typical >corporations, >such as housing, health-care, or public transportation would. your typos are funny sometim

Re: (Fwd) US savings rate drops to record low

2000-09-29 Thread Michael Perelman
Doug Henwood already mentioned why the present expansion is so improbable given the budget surpluses. Much of the impetus has come from increased reliance on debt, perhaps through the wealth effect. I suspect that when the a slowdown occurs, there will be a sudden realization that much of the ph

call for papers: feminist economics

2000-09-29 Thread Michael Perelman
CALL FOR PAPERS! Feminist Economics invites submissions of papers, short exploratory thinking pieces and book reviews for a special issue on "Gender, Color, Caste and Class," to be published in Spring 2002. This issue is a joint project of the International Association for Feminist Economics an

Re: Re: War spending and prosperity

2000-09-29 Thread Michael Perelman
Jim, I agree with you that its suspending that counts. The advantage of military spending is that it does not cut in to the markets of the typical corporations, such as housing, health-care, or public transportation would. PS. I might have to revise the above statement now with the privatizatio

Re: ozzie language

2000-09-29 Thread Charles Brown
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/28/00 04:51PM >>> Jim Devine wrote: > > another NPR story remarked unlike the Ozzies and the Kiwis, the "Yanks" > don't really have a cute nickname for themselves. What should it be? I like Yanks because otherwise it would be hard to tell who won the war of the slave

warning signs

2000-09-29 Thread Charles Brown
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/28/00 04:09PM >>> Michael Perelman wrote: >I don't see the inconsistency. Massive waves of downsizing >eliminated lots of good >jobs (instability). Later, those that could clung to their good >jobs. The second >stage may not represent instability, but it does not r

involuntary overtime

2000-09-29 Thread Jim Devine
>Richardson_D wrote: > > The issue of mandatory overtime has become one of concern in the labor > > relations arena. Employee advocates contend that employers use mandatory > > overtime to reduce the costs of hiring more workers and paying benefits. > > Companies counter that worker shortages ha

Warning signs/harbingers of a new capitalism

2000-09-29 Thread Charles Brown
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/27/00 02:24PM >>> I find this a little odd. The U.S. economy has its longest expansion ever, with many strange features that scream out for analysis (how'd it happen along with a fiscal tightening - shouldn't Keynesians be talking about this?; the alleged productivity

(Fwd) US savings rate drops to record low

2000-09-29 Thread Paul Phillips
Is this a sign? If so of what? Paul Phillips, Economics, University of Manitoba --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:05:38 -0400 From: "Henry C.K. Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Re: War spending and prosperity

2000-09-29 Thread Louis Proyect
>Lenin: "The export of capital influences and greatly accelerates the >development of capitalism in those countries to which it is exported. >While, therefore, the export of capital may tend to a certain extent >to arrest development in the capital-exporting countries, it can only >do so by ex

Re: War spending and prosperity

2000-09-29 Thread Jim Devine
>TOL> OK, my question is: In the depression, there was mass unemployment >TOL> all over the world. During world war 2 there was full employment all >TOL> over the world. If war spending didn't cause this turnaround, what >TOL> did? Or do you think the depression continued until 1945? > >It is not

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: War spending and prosperity

2000-09-29 Thread Doug Henwood
Louis Proyect wrote: >No, Lenin's point was a more overarching one. 1) Just because one makes a point, it doesn't exclude another. > He, along with figures such >as Rosa Luxemburg and Bukharin, were attempting to point out that >capitalism no longer had any progressive aspects. It retarded eco

Re: Re: Re: Re: War spending and prosperity

2000-09-29 Thread Louis Proyect
Doug: >Pardon the imprecision. But Lenin's point, as I remember it, was that >imperial powers are characterized by the export of capital, and >dependent countries by the import of capital. The U.S. invests >abroad, but on balance is an importer of capital. At its peak the UK >was a large net c

Re: Re: Re: War spending and prosperity

2000-09-29 Thread Jim Devine
At 01:48 PM 9/29/00 -0400, you wrote: >There's no such thing as a Leninist analysis of imperialism. There is >Lenin's analysis of imperialism that was written to address the cause of >WWI. By the same token, there is no such thing as a Leninist definition of >the revolutionary party. Five years af

Re: Re: Re: re warning signs

2000-09-29 Thread Doug Henwood
Brad DeLong wrote: >>the pause in the narrowing of the gender gap... > >This I do not understand at all... Theories, none proven as far as I know: 1) welfare reform; 2) growth in IT jobs, in which women are underrepresented; 3) male employment is more procyclical than female; 4) weakening of a

Re: Re: re warning signs

2000-09-29 Thread Brad DeLong
>the pause in the narrowing of the gender gap... This I do not understand at all... Brad DeLong

Re: Re: Re: War spending and prosperity

2000-09-29 Thread Doug Henwood
Louis Proyect wrote: >There's no such thing as a Leninist analysis of imperialism. There is >Lenin's analysis of imperialism that was written to address the cause of >WWI. Pardon the imprecision. But Lenin's point, as I remember it, was that imperial powers are characterized by the export of ca

Re: Re: War spending and prosperity

2000-09-29 Thread Louis Proyect
Doug: >PS: By the way, the coincidence of massive current account deficits, >rising foreign debts, and expanded U.S. imperial power should inspire >a rethink of the Leninist analysis of imperialism, no? There's no such thing as a Leninist analysis of imperialism. There is Lenin's analysis of im

Re: War spending and prosperity

2000-09-29 Thread Doug Henwood
Louis Proyect quoted: >It is not spending part of the budget for arms, but actually >_making_ war. > >All imperialist powers fought the war in the prospect of finding >huge new sources of superprofits. Besides this, war destroys capital, >even more effectively than a depression. > >

Re: Re: FBI helps Czech cops silence dissent

2000-09-29 Thread Joel Blau
If the correct analogy is to the Gilded Age, then isn't the obvious political problem how to ensure that the coming version of the "Progressive Era" does more than merely rationalize the marketplace? Joel Blau Jim Devine wrote: > At 10:17 AM 9/29/00 -0400, you wrote: > >Keeping an eye on prote

New Gilded Age was Re: FBI helps Czech cops silence dissent

2000-09-29 Thread Lisa & Ian Murray
JD> speaking of which, I've noticed that the media make a lot of comparisons between the last 20 years or so and the US "gilded age" of the late 19th and very early 20th centuries. I think there's a lot of validity to these comparisons (though no analogy is perfect). In the last gilded age, the US

Re: Re: BLS Daily Report

2000-09-29 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: >Marc Linder seems to lead several lives. Remember Anti-Samuelson. He's a law prof at the University of Iowa, who seems to publish a book a year. He co-authored a history of Brooklyn that came out about a year ago, and Void Where Prohibited, which uses restrictions on

War spending and prosperity

2000-09-29 Thread Louis Proyect
[This post appeared as a followup to discussion on the Marxism list. It also would relate to our thread from yesterday.] Am 29.09.00 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom O'Lincoln) auf /ALIST/MARXMAIL in [EMAIL PROTECTED] ueber Re: PAE TOL> TOL> OK, my question is: In the depressi

Re: BLS Daily Report

2000-09-29 Thread Michael Perelman
Marc Linder seems to lead several lives. Remember Anti-Samuelson. Richardson_D wrote: > > The issue of mandatory overtime has become one of concern in the labor > relations arena. Employee advocates contend that employers use mandatory > overtime to reduce the costs of hiring more workers and

BLS Daily Report

2000-09-29 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2000 RELEASED TODAY: The Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics ... will brief reporters ... on Thursday, Sept. 28, 2000, about revisions in Consumer Price Index data for the January-through-August 2000 period. ... RELEASED TODAY: In Augus

BLS Daily Report

2000-09-29 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 2000 RELEASED TODAY: In July 2000, there were 1,333 mass layoff actions by employers as measured by new filings for unemployment insurance benefits during the month. Each action involved at least 50 persons from a single establishment, and the number of

Re: FBI helps Czech cops silence dissent

2000-09-29 Thread Jim Devine
At 10:17 AM 9/29/00 -0400, you wrote: >Keeping an eye on protesters International authorities are sharing >information -- not all of it accurate -- about anti-globalization activists. speaking of which, I've noticed that the media make a lot of comparisons between the last 20 years or so and the

RE: Re: Was Eurocentrism (but might have been West Asian)

2000-09-29 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
yes, but notwithstanding what the author says about western exploitation of w. asian countries, when one considers the cross-fertilization over 1000 years btwn europe and w. asia, the demise of european colonialisation in the region, big oil revenues sloshing around many muslim countries over the

Re: Sweatshops

2000-09-29 Thread Barry Rene DeCicco
One good argument to use about sweatshops is the amount of non-free-market stuff involved. The number of death squads and government oppression involved. The fact that government policies are probably driving people into the cities, to create a surplus labor force. The fact that people with c

Re: Nader on FoxNews

2000-09-29 Thread martin schiller
Michael Perelman said on 9/28/00 8:06 PM >I understand that RN will be on TV tonight. How could he be as funny as >Bush? Slate reports RN appeared on Fox News yesterday with Phil Donahue(sp) and described Bush as a corporation disguised as a human being. Sounds a little like Steve Gaskin's "

Re: Re: Re: Re: "OPEC has risen again"

2000-09-29 Thread Jim Devine
>> >So although the militancy of the Venezuelans is very welcome, we need to >> >consider what the end result is likely to be. >> > >> >Chris Burford >> >>I know the answer to that. CIA plots to overthrow Chavez. >> >>Louis Proyect > >Surely. We have to assume it has been going on already, but th

Re: Re: Wernher von Braun

2000-09-29 Thread Jim Devine
At 09:38 PM 9/28/00 -0700, you wrote: >Ah. Tom Lehrer... > >Where oh where is his equal today? Try Roy Zimmerman (no relation to Bob) or the group he used to lead, The Foremen. I think their albums are still available (from Warner Brothers, I believe). Like many of the best artists, most of the

Re: Nader on Letterman

2000-09-29 Thread Jim Devine
You scared me. I thought you were referring to Richard Nixon, who allegedly is tanned and rested and ready to run for office again (in Hell). Of course, Nixon was better than the current crop of politicians. At 09:06 PM 9/28/00 -0700, you wrote: >I understand that RN will be on TV tonight. Jim

FBI helps Czech cops silence dissent

2000-09-29 Thread Louis Proyect
Keeping an eye on protesters International authorities are sharing information -- not all of it accurate -- about anti-globalization activists. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Sarah Ferguson Sept. 29, 2000 | On Sept. 17, 23-year-old Kay Morrison of Seattle was standing on the platform at the Bad Sch

Re: Was Eurocentrism (but might have been West Asian)

2000-09-29 Thread Louis Proyect
>some of these scholars said that about 1000, muslim clerics became more >conservative, didn't want their scientists and technicians, along with >jewish ones scattered among them, medddling with nature any more and had >enough political power to close down scientific investigations. > >flaws in my

Was Eurocentrism (but might have been West Asian)

2000-09-29 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
apropos the eurocentrism view of scientific, technological and capitalist origins, in a muslim forum i asked this question: "What happened to muslim science?", knowing that it and its accompanying technology were the most advanced in the world during the middle ages. i received a number of intere

Re: Re: Re: Re: "OPEC has risen again"

2000-09-29 Thread kjkhoo
Chris Burford wrote: >Not just the Venezuelans but other OPEC members are arguing that >European >governments should reduce the price of oil by reducing taxes. >Assuming that >the price of crude oil remains high this is therefore a proposition >which >in net terms means a vast transfer of exchan