G'day Doug,
> For the record, Comrade Coyle, here's what I had to say in LBO #97,
> written in May. The only way I've changed my tune since then is
> towards greater gloom.
Good article, Doug. 'No ordinary business cycle' nails it, for mine. Core
synchronisation, and the triumph of 'shareholde
The concrete and contradictory position of Iran is extremely instructive
about the development of the "Coalition against Terrorism".
My point of observation is the subtle way the British government has used
information about Iran to influence the subtext and shape of the emerging
international
I left Australia off the end of the address:
www.theage.com.au
Ian Murray wrote:
> > Also, try the Melbourne daily: WWW.theage.com
> >
> > Andrew Hagen wrote:
> >
> > > Utterly shameless plug: I keep a bunch of news links, including
> > > international ones, on
> > >
> > > http://clam.rutgers.
A couple of months ago, I edited my general news bookmarks down by 90% (it's
easier to do than you think, and simply required in this day and age, I
suggest), and found myself, for what it's worth, left with the following
sites.
Must haves:
http://www.theage.com.au/ I agree with Eugene; argu
Robert Manning wrote:
>Typically, a recession is defined by whether
> friends/acquaintances lose their jobs. When we personally loose a job,
> that's "depression."
>
> Robert D. Manning
>
> Rochester Institute of Technology
>
I'd agree -- except I think the terms have shifted.
Middle East News Online September 15, 2001
America, We Feel Your Pain, Do You Feel Ours?
By Ramzy Baroud, Middle East News Online Editor
A six year old Palestinian girl kneeled and nervously, yet gently laid a
flower to join hundreds of other flowers, banners and candles in a small
vigi
> Also, try the Melbourne daily: WWW.theage.com
>
> Andrew Hagen wrote:
>
> > Utterly shameless plug: I keep a bunch of news links, including
> > international ones, on
> >
> > http://clam.rutgers.edu/~ahagen/news.html
> >
> > Andrew Hagen
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:0
Utterly shameless plug: I keep a bunch of news links, including
international ones, on
http://clam.rutgers.edu/~ahagen/news.html
Andrew Hagen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:04:13 -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
>Can someone name some good English-language newspapers produced outside the
>
Also, try the Melbourne daily: WWW.theage.com
Andrew Hagen wrote:
> Utterly shameless plug: I keep a bunch of news links, including
> international ones, on
>
> http://clam.rutgers.edu/~ahagen/news.html
>
> Andrew Hagen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:04:13 -0700, Jim Devine wrot
In my Natural Instability book, I discussed the price of passenger
pigeons, which remained quite low while the bird went extinct. I wouldn't
expect short run prices of resources to reflect long run trends -- too
many other forces swamp such effects.
Also, Christian, I would like to assume that y
> If these kinds of arguments are right, then in the coming slump, as in
> previous downturns, oil prices like other commodity prices are likely to
be
> depressed. If the 'oil is peaking' argument is right, then sooner or later
> a downturn will occur in which previous experience does not apply,
http://latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-092401proof.story
Stephen Philion
Lecturer/PhD Candidate
Department of Sociology
2424 Maile Way
Social Sciences Bldg. # 247
Honolulu, HI 96822
On Monday, September 24, 2001 at 13:04:13 (-0700) Jim Devine writes:
>Can someone name some good English-language newspapers produced outside the
>US? (General newspapers, not business ones: for example, the Guardian
>Unlimited is pretty good, in terms of having a non-US perspective.)
>
>I downl
>
>The article says
>
>>The Saudi royal family has long been concerned about the
>> rise of Islamic radicalism within its own kingdom.
>
>
>However the politics are much more complicated, and sections of the very
>large royal family undoubtedly have connections with the islamic radicals,
>(as
Typically, a recession is defined by whether friends/acquaintances lose their jobs. When we personally loose a job, that's "depression."Robert D. Manning
Rochester Institute of Technology
>From: Gar Lipow<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sub
Rob Schaap wrote:
>
> Mark Jones wrote:
>
> > You still didn't let us know what *you* think "we" should do about
> > falling markets. Maybe the answer will be in your forthcoming book about the
> > New Economy.
>
> Well, I'll take a pop. Let's take another look at 'infrastructure', 'natural
quoth Krugman:
>A second step would be to accelerate the flow of government spending.
>One of the lessons of the Asian crisis, declared the IMF's Stanley
>Fischer, was that "Keynesianism is alive and well" - increased
>government spending does help the economy.The additional spending that
>will ta
The Irish Times is available daily on the web at www.ireland.com/. It is in
English with the occasional bit in Gaelic. It is pretty mainstream but is a
non-US perspective.
Gene Coyle
Jim Devine wrote:
> Can someone name some good English-language newspapers produced outside the
> US? (General
Sid Shniad sent this:
According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO),
about 35,615 children died from conditions of starvation on September
11,
2001
RELEVANT STATISTICS
* Victims: 35,615 children (source: FAO)
* Where: poor countries
* Special tv programs: none
* News
At 24/09/2001 20:55, Doug wrote:
>And now I'll really go quiet.
>
Are you here or not here? It's very unclear.
Mark
>From: Gar Lipow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I lost my job recently; by me it's a recession.
I'll see that and raise you. I lost my job the beginning of April and have
been looking every since. Andecdotalism to be sure, but to me compelling
vindication of my longstanding bearishness.
Carl
_
Doug has chided me many times for calling an imminent recession before.
How do you know??? I thought that all the pieces were in place, but it
did not happen. Doug always asks for data, which I frequently do not
have.
I think that his skepticism is healthy. I don't think he ever said that
the
Le monde diplomatique's english version (though
monthly) is excellent. The Independant of the UK is
another obvious choice (a bit like the Guardian).
Morningstar is a socialist daily with little internet
presence from the Uk and is abit doctrinaire.
Red Pepper is a good left monthly publication i
That is probably becasue the viruses are doing the mailing...
Jim Devine wrote:
> It's a strange day when I seem to get more e-mail messages (from "Tony
> Theriault") with viruses (viri?) attached than I get pen-l messages...
>
> Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevi
Can someone name some good English-language newspapers produced outside the
US? (General newspapers, not business ones: for example, the Guardian
Unlimited is pretty good, in terms of having a non-US perspective.)
I download news story from www.Avantgo.com and I am looking for new sources.
Jim
I lost my job recently; by me it's a recession.
At 12:27 PM 9/24/01 -0700, you wrote:
>When, going back over a year ago, maybe two, some on PEN-L, Rob Schaap most
>articulately but joined by many others, predicted a world-wide recession, Doug
>took up the other side. the stock market was roaring, profits were high,
>consumers were optimistic.
Eugene Coyle wrote:
>Now it seems he can't let go of the idea that things will be roaring again
>soon.
For the record, Comrade Coyle, here's what I had to say in LBO #97,
written in May. The only way I've changed my tune since then is
towards greater gloom.
People who call for global recessio
It's a strange day when I seem to get more e-mail messages (from "Tony
Theriault") with viruses (viri?) attached than I get pen-l messages...
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
Eugene Coyle wrote:
>Now it seems he can't let go of the idea that things will be roaring again
>soon.
If I hadn't taken a vow of silence, I'd say that's bullshit.
Doug
When, going back over a year ago, maybe two, some on PEN-L, Rob Schaap most
articulately but joined by many others, predicted a world-wide recession, Doug
took up the other side. the stock market was roaring, profits were high,
consumers were optimistic. What could we all have been talking about
> BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, SEPTEMBER 24, 2001:
>
> Despite an obvious economic slowdown, regional and state unemployment
> rates remained stable in August, with some 43 states reporting shifts of
> 0.3 percent or less, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The
> August rep
Mark Jones wrote:
>Doug, a one time self-professed marxist, now spends his time
>wondering aloud how leftwing economists can help capitalism get over
>its latest downturn.
Right.
I'm going to go quiet on PEN-L for awhile; I'll let Mark and Tom and
everyone else save capitalism, or organize t
signifying terrorism
by Ian Murray
The International Herald Tribune | www.iht.com
Would-Be Allies Use U.S. War on Terrorism for Their Own Ends
William Pfaff International Herald Tribune
Monday, September 24, 2001
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Your nationalists are my terrorists. My freedom-fighters are your
terror
Michael Perelman wrote:
>
> If the "war" were just bombing the Afgan's, perhaps we could kill a few
> thousand, declare victory, and leave. I think that Bush's demand that
> everyone take up sides is very dangerous. I don't know how much
> discontent there is in Pakistan or if siding with Paki
September 24, 2001 /L.A. TIMES
Commentary/Economic Slide Makes Spending Respectable
By ROBERT POLLIN, Robert Pollin is a professor of economics and codirector
of the Political Economy Research Institute at the University of
Massachusetts-Amherst
U.S. economic policymakers have failed for almo
Penners
It looks like Peter Hain has inherited John Prescott's old role as
"left" legitimator of Mr Tony's modernising project, and he's far more
cerebral to boot. Well, coherent anyway. This guy dissembles without
disassembling. However, note the interesting employment of machismo in
the clarion
G'day all,
Don't take me for a Taliban apologist, but where does Rumsfeld get off calling
the Taliban's claim they don't know wher ObL is, 'simply not credible'? He
probably doesn't know where ObL is himself (indeed, if ObL actually was the
culprit, no-one probably knew as at 9/11), and we'd ha
Michael Perelman wrote:
>
> I worry that the worst impacts will be those that were
> unforseen. That got me to thinking about the fall of the USSR,
> which I think has made the world worse in more ways that I can
> imagine. I suspect that the wars in Yugoslavia would not have
> happened. Nor w
But surely there is a link.
> "The federal government doesn t seem to understand that the enemy
>is supposed to be terrorism, not capitalism!"
> www.mises.org reaction to government intervention since WTC attack.
Dr. W. Robert Needham
DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMICS
University of Waterloo
Wate
Mark Jones wrote:
> You still didn't let us know what *you* think "we" should do about
> falling markets. Maybe the answer will be in your forthcoming book about the
> New Economy.
Well, I'll take a pop. Let's take another look at 'infrastructure', 'natural
monopoly' and 'public good' and 'exte
I don't really mind when Doug riffs a cheap shot about gloating off one of
my posts. I don't really mind when Doug doesn't respond to my substantive
reply to his cheep shot. But when, after ignoring my reply, he fires off a
cheap shot about catechism under the "not good" subject heading, it hurts
Max Sawicky wrote:
Check the State Dept reports on terrorism. I
took a spin through them last night. The chief
offenders, according to the reports, are Iran
and Syria, mostly for hosting Palestinian-related
groups. Both are particularly tough nuts, for
different reasons. Iran because it's a hu
At 24/09/2001 01:56, Michael Perelman wrote:
> Has any good come from the fall of the USSR?
>
>--
You don't have to buy into the "worse the better" thesis to see that the
fall of the USSR was inevitable (unbearably unpleasant as it may have been
for those of us with personal connections the
At 24/09/2001 01:09, you wrote:
>Mark Jones wrote:
>
>>As for "bad economy", is there such a thing as a "good" capitalist economy?
>
>No. I forgot my catechism. Sorry, Rev. Jones.
>
>Doug
You still didn't let us know what *you* think "we" should do about falling
markets. Maybe the answer will be
>From: "Macdonald Stainsby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "Rad Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: "Leninist International" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Project X" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Max Sawicky wrote:
Check the State Dept reports on terrorism. I
took a spin through them last night. The chief
offenders, according to the reports, are Iran
and Syria, mostly for hosting Palestinian-related
groups. Both are particularly tough nuts, for
different reasons. Iran because it's a hu
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