NEW YORK (AP) _ Before Sept. 11, the Federation of American
Scientists' Web site offered details on obscure or secret U.S.
intelligence facilities.
Another site detailed special gatherings at Minot Air Force Base in
North Dakota, while yet another accepted orders for maps of military
installation
[The Independent]
The high price we must pay for Russia's help
04 October 2001
Putin calls on Nato to make space for Russia
President Vladimir Putin of Russia has stunned everyone with the
extent of his support for the coalition against the Taliban. Anyone
who remembers the Kremlin's tantrums ov
Embargoed until Thursday, October 4, 2001
CUBAN SURVIVOR CHARGES FIDEL CASTRO WITH CRIMES
AGAINST HUMANITY
Belgian law invoked to indict Cuban leader
Brussels, Belgium Thursday, October 4, 2001
A legal campaign to bring Cuban president Fidel Castro
to court to face charges of crimes against huma
["Politics and religion are obsolete. The time has come for science
and spirituality" Jawaharlal Nehru]
< http://www.outlookindia.com/ >
<...>
In February 1938 Frances Gunther, the wife of John Gunther the
American journalist, and author of the best-seller Inside Asia Today,
wrote to Jawaharlal
The NY Times says that the spineless dems. are now getting ready to
compromise on fast track. What crap!
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Perelman wrote:
>
>
> In this age of misinformation and disinformation, idle
> speculation is as valid as any other form of thought. I passed
> this on because it suggests that, in the absence of class
> distinctions among passengers, the plan might not have succeeded.
>
I would dra
< http://jang.com.pk/thenews/ >
Strikes on militant camps in Pakistan an option: India
HELD SRINAGAR: India's deputy home minister on Wednesday said
cross-border military strikes on Muslim guerrilla camps in Pakistan
were one of the options in New Delhi's arsenal to combat freedom
struggle in Kas
[FT]
Nissan plant workers reject unionisation
By Nikki Tait in Chicago
Published: October 4 2001 02:55 | Last Updated: October 4 2001 03:50
Organised labour in the US suffered a major setback on Wednesday when
more than 4,500 workers at a Nissan assembly plant in Tennessee voted
resoundingly ag
A friend suggested that class differences may have made the
hijacking and bombing possible. The culprits supposedly had
first-class seats, giving 4 people with box cutters the
opportunity to overpower a handful of first-class passengers once
the curtains closed. At that point, they could storm t
The Greider piece is excellent. He brings to light one of the hidden
mechanisms used in international trade law to carry out the race to the
bottom on a global scale. Epstein has always struck me as someone who has
some kind of intellectual block on reality. Considering he has spent so
much of
I just finished reading a post about US military landing in Uzbekistan but
there seem to be more problems with the coalition. There is not that much
time for a campaign. Ramadan starts in November. Winter in the mountains
makes it difficult to conduct any sort of a campaign.
Cheers, Ken Hanly
Ai
Blair set to reveal bin Laden evidence
By Paul Waugh, Stephen Castle and Patrick Cockburn
04 October 2001
Internal links
Now the politicians must win the diplomatic offensive
Tony Blair will use an emergency statement to Parliament today to make
public for the first time Britain's "incontrovertib
Sorry about the earlier post. Here is what I wanted to append: from the
Nation
US to minimise use of Pak bases
>From Afzal Khan
WASHINGTON - The Pentagon is reshaping its war plan to minimise the use of
Pakistani bases in a military strike against Taliban, fearing that an
extensive deployment th
The buildup is now apparently taking place in Uzbekistan. A reported 1,000
US infantry is being flown there among others..
Cheers, Ken Hanly
Sadly, the right is making more sense to me than most liberals.
Bob Barr might be the most outspoken defender of civil liberties
in the Congress now. So here's another article from a right-wing
source that looks good.
Conning Congress: Privacy and the 1994 Communications Assistance
for Law
Enfor
Chris thanks for your reply. As I have to be away for a few days I thought
to break it into two parts, first a simple response to the criticisms
raised and later a second where I hope to elaborate a little on the theme.
At 00:37 4/10/01 +0100, you wrote:
>At 27/09/01 17:29 +0800, Greg wrote:
>
Wednesday October 3 9:30 AM ET
Air Cargo Seen Plunging, Hitting Trade
By Robert Evans
GENEVA (Reuters) - World air cargo traffic, a mainstay of global
trade, is plunging amid turmoil in the airline industry after last
month's suicide hijackings in the United States, the airports body ACI
said on
Doug and I asked Michael Perelman about what the standards are for shutting
off discussions on pen-l. Now, I ask Doug: what are your rules for lbo-talk?
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine
At 27/09/01 17:29 +0800, Greg wrote:
The first is Lenin's referring to
"unstable" monopolies as precursors to monopoly capitalism
in Chapter 1 (CONCENTRATION OF PRODUCTION AND MONOPOLIES) that
after the crisis of 1873 cartels emerged as exceptions and were not
durable, before this period such mo
They should be pleased there are such moderate and far-sighted people in
the movement. If not, the movement will be in the hands of anarchists and
the 30 fold differences in wage rates in the world will contribute to
horrors that will fuel outrage. Remember it was *before * Sept 11 that the
me
[from Fastnet and the Loka Institute]
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The following resource was sent to me, and I thought you all would be
interested. Ordering information is at the end of the message.
All the best,
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> BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 3, 2001:
>
> RELEASED TODAY: In August, 241 metropolitan areas recorded unemployment
> rates below the U.S. average (4.9 percent, not seasonally adjusted), and
> 86 areas registered higher rates, the Bureau of Labor Statistics report
In response to Michael's question about economic prospects, it seems to me,
given the perverse logic of capitalism, that the events of 11 September will
be good for the economy. The threat to the economy was years of stagnate
growth as corporations tried to get out from under the debt hangover
le
I wrote:
>US NPR said this morning that ObL _wants_ to be a
>martyr...
>What, did they talk to OBL on the phone?
it's probably based on "on dit" evidence (i.e., rumor). But it sounds like
a plausible possibility.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
From: "Jim Devine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> But getting rid of ObL and his cronies wouldn't abolish the social &
> historical forces that gave rise to Islamic fundamentalism as a
force to
> mobilize people to engage in terrorism. In fact, it might easily
create
> martyrs (and US NPR said this morning
Economists Allied for Arms Reduction letter to President Bush
September 20, 2001
The Honorable Joseph Biden, Chairman
Senate Foreign Relations Committee
United States Senate
Dear Senator Biden:
In the wake of the terrible events of September 11 in New York and
Washington and rapid moves toward
At 02:15 AM 10/4/01 +, you wrote:
> > Rarely do so many dramatic forces bunch together like this. Do any of
> > you have any thoughts about what to expect in the economy?
>
>Well, we can't discount the possibility of a big Keynesian splurge under the
>cover of war and rumours of war, but it d
At 01:53 AM 10/4/01 +, you wrote:
>Just building on this ObL stuff while I may; isn't there something of a fetish
>happening here? I mean, I go a good way with Andy's position on the bloke,
>but I keep harking back to EP Thompson's explanation for why the magistrates
>couldn't nip the Luddite
http://TheEconomist.s.maildart.net/link_29319_6468878_3_141296846_868081
20_1_9f">http://www.economist.com/agenda/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=805800
Friends,
Below paragraph is from the above The Economist article. This paragraph is
about the "sharp review" of business strategies. I have been ob
October 3, 2001
MARKET PLACE
Cheap Credit, Except for Those Who Need It Most
By FLOYD NORRIS
The Federal Reserve made it cheaper yesterday for some people and companies to borrow.
But its efforts to stimulate the economy are being hampered by a plunge in consumer
confidence and by financial
> Rarely do so many dramatic forces bunch together like this. Do any of
> you have any thoughts about what to expect in the economy?
Well, we can't discount the possibility of a big Keynesian splurge under the
cover of war and rumours of war, but it does all depend on stuff like how long
it is b
From the S. Steven Powell book I mentioned, it appears.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/1777/ips1.htm
The Biographical Sketches on the Left are four light blue hardbacks
published by Western Islands, a John Birch Society publisher. Link Walter
Reuther to the Weatherman cuz UAW gave
Rarely does a single event have such dramatic effects as the World Trade
Center bombing. Economists are always on the prowl for such "natural
experiments." Typically, economies recover quickly from natural
disasters, such as the Northridge earthquake. In fact, demand-oriented
economics, probabl
Just building on this ObL stuff while I may; isn't there something of a fetish
happening here? I mean, I go a good way with Andy's position on the bloke,
but I keep harking back to EP Thompson's explanation for why the magistrates
couldn't nip the Luddite movement in the bud. Experienced investi
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2001/09/28/107.html
Friday, Sep. 28, 2001. Page VIII
Global Eye -- Follow the Money
By Chris Floyd
Why couldn't American agents find Osama bin Laden's money and stop the
flow of his support to terrorist networks around the world before they
struck on Sept.
Jim Devine >...movement backed by Havana, Hanoi, and Moscow," according to
one historian.
>
> which historian? a nut like Ronald Radosh (?)
No a further right nutter named S. Steven Powell in, Covert Cadre: Inside
The Institute for Policy Studies." Published early 80's, if memory serves,
in mo
You might be interested in looking at the e-magazine,
http://www.thecommoner.org
It has a number of articles on the war as well as some interesting
theoretical articles. Its previous issue concerned primitive
accumulation.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chi
Both Jim and Doug disapproved of my handling of Andrew's post. My
response reflected the way I saw Andrew's thread evolve on the Marxism
list. If you think that it can lead to a fruitful discussion, then go
ahead. I remain skeptical
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State U
Hi everybody.
Doug says:
>In other words, no political debate,
>please, we're economists?
>I don't get what your standards are,
>Michael. More transparency, please!
He's back! And he's right, IMHO! These are momentous issues that constrain the near
term situation, including the economic situ
>Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 08:04:08 -0700
>To: "Austin, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [PEN-L:17980] Re: RE: Evidence against bin Laden
>
>At 07:47 AM 10/03/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>The Taliban is a
>>brutal atavistic and patriarchal regime.
>
>so is
I agree with Doug. Michael, you seem to be rejecting any discussion that's
unpleasant.
At 10:10 AM 10/03/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Michael Perelman wrote:
>
>>Please Andrew, we have better ways of using our time.
>
>In other words, no political debate, please, we're economists?
>
>I don't get what
The Washington TIMES wrote:
>... The communist influence on Saturday's protest extends far beyond the
>participation of avowed Marxists, Trotskyists and Maoists. Among the
>scheduled speakers are members of the Institute for Policy Studies, a think
>tank which during the Cold War consistently
Michael Perelman wrote:
>Please Andrew, we have better ways of using our time.
In other words, no political debate, please, we're economists?
I don't get what your standards are, Michael. More transparency, please!
Doug
I don't think that we need to debate Hitchens foolishness here.
> Hitchens asks: "But must one not also measure intention and motive?"
>
> the american intention and motive is revealed post facto in its shutting down
> an investigation of the consequences of the bombing. this is what turned
Please Andrew, we have better ways of using our time. This seems to be
the thread that you started on the Marxism list.
>
> I have never said anywhere that we should kill large numbers of innocent
> Afghans. Elsewhere I have said I am categorically opposed to the US going to
> war with Afghani
-Original Message-
From: Jim Devine
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10/2/2001 10:14 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:17980] Re: RE: Evidence against bin Laden
"BTW, as far as I know, there are NO bin Laden supporters or sympathizers
on pen-l. To whom are you referring?"
I was referring to the Taliban, gr
Hi. THis is the last one on the subject. Cross my heart
Andrew says:
>On the other hand, Osama Bin Laden has
>consistently called for the death of
>American people. He blames all
>Americans for the injustices
>he perceives. Thus, Bin Laden does not
>perceive an ethical duty to not attack
>civili
Just one more comment, sorry. I couldn't resist.
Andrew: why Stephen Roach (Morgan Stanley) should apologize to the WTC victims.
[quoting from
http://csf.colorado.edu/pen-l/2001III/msg03255.html]
Stephen Roach:
>And, of course, the shocking events of recent days underscore
>what now seems to be
I wrote this a long time ago, and hesitated a long time before sending it.
I think this thread is important, and that Andrew raises some crucial points that need
an answer. One shouldn't discard it too easily. That's why I decided to send this post.
Andrew says:
>The chief lesson of the 20th
Robert Fisk: Just who are our allies in Afghanistan?
'The Alliance have not murdered 7,000 innocent civilians in the US. They
have done their massacres on their home turf'
The Independent, 03 October 2001
"America's New War," is what they call it on CNN. And of course, as
usual, they've got it wr
New law gets Berlusconi off the hook
Crucial evidence in corruption case will be ruled inadmissible
Philip Willan in Rome
Wednesday October 3, 2001
The Guardian
The Italian senate was expected to approve a bill last night which
critics say is intended to protect the legal interests of the prime
Penners
More "evidence" of the "need" for concerted Western intervention in the
former Soviet republics bordering Afghanistan, begging the question,
how, if ever, will these countries rid themselves of US/NATO forces once
these have arrived?
Experts back startling heroin claims
Alan Travis, hom
- Original Message -
From: "Doyle Saylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Of course this is just my spirit speaking. I find it inspiring to hear
> many people speak like this. To Mac Stainsby and others like them your
> words keep the fire burning.
>
Thanks Doyle. you are now the recipient
Hitchens asks: "But must one not also measure intention and motive?"
the american intention and motive is revealed post facto in its shutting down
an investigation of the consequences of the bombing. this is what turned the
us bombing into a state terrorist act, whatever the initial intenti
Jim D. reasonably asks:
Michael, shouldn't it be basic that we should distrust all of the
bourgeois
media -- not just the GUARDIAN -- because they have clear bourgeois
biases,
including favoring the national security state, etc.? Even though the
New
York TIMES doesn't seem to be connected with
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