Bush on history

2004-04-20 Thread Charles Brown
From: Michael Hoover >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/19/04 10:14 AM >>> On Sixty Minutes last night , B. Woodward claimed that when asked what history will "think" of Bush's war on Iraq, Bush responded that we will all be dead when history makes it's judgment. <> bush belongs to apocalypt

Kerry-nomics (Bush on history)

2004-04-20 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 9:54 AM -0400 4/20/04, Charles Brown wrote: Also, I was wondering if Bush was a crypto-Keynesian or sort of a Keynesian from the crypt. You know, "in the long run we are all dead", deficit spending to the max ( poison pill for socialistic programs), low interest rates on the monetary side. Kerr

We need Support not a Lecture

2004-04-20 Thread Joel Wendland
Morning Star” , 20 April 2004 We need support not a lecture (Tuesday 20 April 2004) Richard Bagley INTERVIEW: Iraqi Communist SALAM ALI talks to the Star about the challenges ahead and his party's strategy. IRAQI Communist Salam Ali has a simple message to the anti-war movement in the face of con

Re: We need Support not a Lecture

2004-04-20 Thread Louis Proyect
I think most PEN-L'ers recognize the article on the Iraqi CP that Joel Wendland forwarded as blatant self-justification and requiring no further commentary. One might as well spend time dissecting Chalabi's latest speech. But there is one thing in it that sticks out like a sore thumb: "In answer to

Re: Kerry-nomics (Bush on history)

2004-04-20 Thread Devine, James
> At 9:54 AM -0400 4/20/04, Charles Brown wrote: > >Also, I was wondering if Bush was a crypto-Keynesian or sort of a > >Keynesian from the crypt. You know, "in the long run we are all > >dead", deficit spending to the max ( poison pill for socialistic > >programs), low interest rates on the monet

war against journalists?

2004-04-20 Thread Devine, James
[After hearing about this story on US NPR and not seeing it in the L.A. TIMES, I googled for it. It's amazing how many _different_ stories come up if you google "Iraqi journalists shot US troops."] Posted on Tue, Apr. 20, 2004 U.S. troops kill two Iraqi television employees ASSOCIATED PRESS BAG

Re: We need Support not a Lecture

2004-04-20 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 10:38 AM -0400 4/20/04, Joel Wendland posted: Morning Star, 20 April 2004 We need support not a lecture (Tuesday 20 April 2004) Richard Bagley INTERVIEW: Iraqi Communist SALAM ALI talks to the Star about the challenges ahead and his party's strategy. One thing of which Ali is certain is that th

Re: war against journalists?

2004-04-20 Thread Michael Perelman
Don't forget about the consistent accidental bombing of Al Jazeera offices. On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 09:03:39AM -0700, Devine, James wrote: > [After hearing about this story on US NPR and not seeing it in the L.A. > TIMES, I googled for it. It's amazing how many _different_ stories come > up if you

super-size me!

2004-04-20 Thread Devine, James
>From Reuters: McDonald's CEO >Cantalupo's death [at age 60] follows the untimely passing of others in the industry. In January 2002, Dave Thomas, 69, founder of No.3 U.S. hamburger chain Wendy's International Inc. died of complications from liver cancer. In December 1999, Wendy's CEO, Gordon Teter

Re: super-size me!

2004-04-20 Thread Devine, James
actually, the web-site was http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=4881596§ion=news. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine > From Reuters: McDonald's CEO >Cantalupo's death [at age 60] > follows the > untimely pa

Re: super-size me!

2004-04-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Either they work too hard, or they eat badly... Joel Blau Original Message: - From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:46:54 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: super-size me! actually, the web-site was http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=

Re: We need Support not a Lecture

2004-04-20 Thread Joel Wendland
Louis Proyect wrote: I think most PEN-L'ers recognize the article on the Iraqi CP that Joel Wendland forwarded as blatant self-justification and requiring no further commentary. One might as well spend time dissecting Chalabi's latest speech. But there is one thing in it that sticks out like a sore

Re: We need Support not a Lecture

2004-04-20 Thread Louis Proyect
Joel Wendland wrote: Certainly forces that surrounded Saddam Hussein opposed an invasion, but Ali does not consider them a democratic movement. Frankly, I wouldn't consider the CP of Iraq very democratic myself. Or any CP for that matter. I know that some on the left in the U.S. were deluded into t

capitalism = progressive?

2004-04-20 Thread Devine, James
I was hoping some expert would answer this message, but it didn't happen. So here's my effort. If I am incorrect in any interpretation (especially concerning China or India), please correct me. {was: RE: [PEN-L] Profit making under capitalism} > MICHAEL YATES wrote: > >What exactly about capi

Re: We need Support not a Lecture

2004-04-20 Thread Michael Perelman
I don't think that this debate is particularly useful here. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Re: capitalism = progressive?

2004-04-20 Thread Michael Perelman
Capitalism may be more progressive than feudalism, but then I don't know a lot about how live was then. On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 01:45:54PM -0700, Devine, James wrote: > I was hoping some expert would answer this message, but it didn't happen. So here's > my effort. If I am incorrect in any inter

Re: capitalism = progressive?

2004-04-20 Thread Louis Proyect
Capitalism may be more progressive than feudalism, but then I don't know a lot about how live was then. -- Michael Perelman "Although their standard of living may not have been particularly lavish, the people of precapitalistic northern Europe, like most traditional people, enjoyed a great deal o

Re: We need Support not a Lecture

2004-04-20 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: I don't think that this debate is particularly useful here. Because of subject matter or personalities involved? Doug

Re: capitalism = progressive?

2004-04-20 Thread Devine, James
feudalism seems to have been very progressive when it came to developing military technology (given the low level at which that technology started). But then again, the word "progressive" is sort of a catch-all. Is it a synonym for "good"? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: We need Support not a Lecture

2004-04-20 Thread Sabri Oncu
> > Because of subject matter or personalities involved? > > Doug Doug, We all know about whom this comment is and maybe you don't realize but your personality is not significantly different. The thing is, I like and respect both of you. Look, both of you are older than I am, not that I am that

Re: We need Support not a Lecture

2004-04-20 Thread Doug Henwood
I think it's time for another PEN-L vacation. Enjoy! - Doug Sabri Oncu wrote: > Because of subject matter or personalities involved? Doug Doug, We all know about whom this comment is and maybe you don't realize but your personality is not significantly different. The thing is, I like and res

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2004-04-20 Thread Dickens, Edwin
>it's unclear that the economy can sustain positive real short-term interest >rates. I was thinking of Jim's assertion that there are speculative bubbles in some real estate markets, and my suggestion that the same might be true in some commodity markets.  A speculative bubble exists wheneve

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2004-04-20 Thread Devine, James
If the Fed doesn't see it that way, it seems unlikely that it will succeed (except by accident). The Fed, of course, denies that there's a housing bubble. I don't know about their attitude toward commodity markets. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine -Or

Re: We need Support not a Lecture

2004-04-20 Thread Sabri Oncu
> I think it's time for another PEN-L vacation. > Enjoy! - Doug Why are you taking offense Doug? I did not insult you. What you don't realize is that whatever the problems you and Lou are having, I don't think neither Lou nor you are the right party, as if in such such situations there can be on

Re: mixed economic signals

2004-04-20 Thread Sabri Oncu
Tom: > A speculative bubble exists whenever a market > is dominated by investors ("noise traders" in > the economics literature) with short time horizons > who have taken highly leveraged long positions. I read that "noise traders" paper by Summers et al. It is just one possible explanation and a

George W. Kerry on Staying the Course in Iraq

2004-04-20 Thread Michael Hoover
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/apr2004/kerr-a19.shtml Kerry on "Meet the Press:" Democratic candidate reiterates support for Iraq war By Patrick Martin 19 April 2004 In an hour-long appearance Sunday on the NBC News program "Meet the Press," the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, Sen

Re: George W. Kerry on Staying the Course in Iraq

2004-04-20 Thread Mario José de Lima
...then why to change? President Bush already has experience in this subject. "Democratic candidate reiterates support for Iraq war" - Original Message - From: "Michael Hoover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:33 PM Subject: George W. Kerry on Sta

Re: We need Support not a Lecture

2004-04-20 Thread Michael Perelman
Actually, I prefer not to have sectarian discussions here. Just as I thought that the Kerry/Bush debate was pointless, unless someone had some very new insight, which I did not see coming in that thread. On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 06:39:52PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: > I think it's time for another

Re: We need Support not a Lecture

2004-04-20 Thread Sabri Oncu
Michael: > Actually, I prefer not to have sectarian > discussions here. Me too. Indeed, not just here, but everywhere. Enough of this Doug-Louis or Louis-Doug thing! They are in their fifties and are hardly kids anymore. My friends! Before you attack each other, go and watch yourselves in a