Re: Israel pushing for Kurdish state?

2004-07-28 Thread Chris Doss
that may be true, but would you then agree with BBC's assessment that it started as an essentially indigenous and popular uprising? if so, that is all the more reason to ask the people. counterinsurgency warfare might be a dirty business (and i doubt you condone it), but it is all the more dirty

Re: India's HDI Improves, Ranking Doesn't

2004-07-28 Thread Chris Doss
--- ravi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nothing unites like hate. and for that there is pakistan and/or muslims. the common language i share with my indian spouse is english. but not to worry with respect to commonality... advice from some relatives/acquaintances on both sides struck a common chord:

Diminishing Expectations

2004-07-28 Thread Carrol Cox
Michael Hoover wrote: but conversations here indicate that we sure do live in the age of diminishing expectations, which in itself gives people fewer reasons to spend time on political activism. That's interesting (as well as depressing). A speculation: Assuming the truth of this, the

Ukraine drops bid to join E.U., NATO

2004-07-28 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Hindu Wednesday, Jul 28, 2004 Ukraine drops bid to join E.U., NATO By Vladimir Radyuhin MOSCOW, JULY 27. Ukraine has formally abandoned its goal of joining NATO in a sign of its growing tilt towards Russia. The Ukrainian President, Leonid Kuchma, signed a decree ordering changes in the

Re: Ukraine drops bid to join E.U., NATO

2004-07-28 Thread Chris Doss
Yes. Ukraine is part of the Union of Four (Russia, Uraine, Kazakhstan, Belarus). The post-Soviet space is consolidating itself politically and economically. Armenia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgystan and Tajikistan are also tilting toward Moscow. Even Georgia, in its own strange way. --- Ulhas Joglekar

Re: Ukraine drops bid to join E.U., NATO

2004-07-28 Thread Chris Doss
I wrote: --- Chris Doss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. Ukraine is part of the Union of Four (Russia, Uraine, Kazakhstan, Belarus). The post-Soviet space is consolidating itself politically and economically. Armenia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgystan and Tajikistan are also tilting toward Moscow. Even

Re: Diminishing Expectations

2004-07-28 Thread Doug Henwood
Carrol Cox wrote: the strongest argument against Chomsky's claim that the u.s. is incomparably more civilized today than 40 years ago. It just *can't* be true, can it? Everything is just awful, and getting worse by the day. Never acknowledge any progress, which can only come with The Revolution,

Re: Cuba: Dealing with the dollar

2004-07-28 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
Diane Monaco wrote: How far Cuba can be regarded as an independent and socialist nation-state, if there is extensive dollarisation of Cuban economy? I'm not sure what independent really means, True, the Left no longer seems know what independence really means ! :) Cuba is

Re: Cuba: Dealing with the dollar

2004-07-28 Thread Louis Proyect
Ulhas Joglekar wrote: Cuba invites and accepts foreign investment, encourages tourism and receives remittances from Cubans settled abroad. Cuba also trades with other countries. (I don't know what is Cuba's external indebtedness.) These things would erode Cuba's autonomy. Is Cuba's relationship

The Blind Swordsman Zatoichi

2004-07-28 Thread Louis Proyect
In Hollywood, the blind are represented in film either as pitiful victims, such as in Wait Until Dark, or as comic figures like Mr. Muckle, who tears apart W. C. Fields's shop in It's a Gift. Leave it to the Japanese to come up with somebody like Zatoichi, the blind master swordsman who was played

Re: Israel pushing for Kurdish state?

2004-07-28 Thread Joseph Green
On 27 October 1991 the leader of the national movement, former Soviet General Dudayev, won the presidential elections in Chechnya. On November 2, the Russian Duma denounced the elections in Chechnya. On November 7, Yeltsin declared a state of emergency in Chechnya and ordered the arrest of

Re: Israel pushing for Kurdish state?

2004-07-28 Thread Chris Doss
No, that's history according to history. Supporting Dudayev in 1991 is not the same as opposing the national movement in 1991. Look, mister alienatethepublicwiththenameofmywebsite.com, I actually know Chechens. Real-live Chechens. They live in Moscow. I get drunk with them. They do not support

Re: Israel pushing for Kurdish state?

2004-07-28 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
Diane Monaco wrote: That being said and I agree again with you, the Kurds are an oppressed nationality. Period. Does it mean that the Left should support the breakup of Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey? Ulhas Yahoo! India

Re: Israel pushing for Kurdish state?

2004-07-28 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Diane wrote: That being said and I agree again with you, the Kurds are an oppressed nationality. Period. Ulhas wrote Does it mean that the Left should support the breakup of Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey? Ulhas Of course not. But I think your point is more along the lines of the foreign

Re: Israel pushing for Kurdish state?

2004-07-28 Thread Chris Doss
Whoops, my mistake. I was confusing the Chechen-Ingush republic with the republic of Chechnya. --- Chris Doss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, that's history according to history. Supporting Dudayev in 1991 is not the same as opposing the national movement in 1991. Look, mister

Re: Israel pushing for Kurdish state?

2004-07-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/28/2004 11:41:00 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look, mister alienatethepublicwiththenameofmywebsite.com, I actually know Chechens. Real-live Chechens. They live in Moscow. I get drunk with them. They do not support the jihadis. I am not going to

Re: The Blind Swordsman Zatoichi

2004-07-28 Thread Daniel Davies
didn't straight-to-video fave Rutger Hauer star in a film about a blind swordsman once? dd -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Louis Proyect Sent: 28 July 2004 16:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Blind Swordsman Zatoichi In Hollywood, the blind

Re: The Blind Swordsman Zatoichi

2004-07-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/28/2004 12:16:54 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: didn't straight-to-video fave Rutger Hauer star in a film about a blind swordsman once? dd Comment Not sure but every since Rutger Hauer's incredible performance in Blade Runner . . . I have been

Nader to Kucinich

2004-07-28 Thread Dan Scanlan
Title: Nader to Kucinich Dennis, We Thought We Knew You! By Ralph Nader http://www.votenader.com Dennis Kucinich has decided to endorse the Kerry-Edwards Campaign. Of course, since Dennis is a committed, life-long Democrat this is not a big surprise. But, in doing so he also urged Nader

Networking in Boston

2004-07-28 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, July 28, 2004 An Aspiring Money Man Gets to Taste the High Life By GLEN JUSTICE BOSTON, July 27 - Owen Byrd had been on the ground less than two hours on Sunday when he made his way to the sumptuous Four Seasons Hotel here to pick up an envelope. Inside was a large gold ticket with a

Re: The Blind Swordsman Zatoichi

2004-07-28 Thread Louis Proyect
Daniel Davies wrote: didn't straight-to-video fave Rutger Hauer star in a film about a blind swordsman once? http://www.pulpmovies.com/Reviews/Action/blindfury.html Blind Fury Master of the sword. Avenger of the Truth. ... and blind as a bat! Rutger Hauer is a great actor. But he has appeared in

Re: Israel pushing for Kurdish state?

2004-07-28 Thread Chris Doss
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does this self determination formula apply to the American Union in 2004. There are more African Americans in and around metropolitan Detroit than there are Chechens and the Nation of Islam was birthed in Detroit. Do you gentlemen support and advocate for the right

Re: Israel pushing for Kurdish state?

2004-07-28 Thread Devine, James
Diane writes; That being said and I agree again with you, the Kurds are an oppressed nationality. Period. Ulhas responds: Does it mean that the Left should support the breakup of Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey? there are other options besides secession: Ken mentions federalism, while simply

quote du jour

2004-07-28 Thread Devine, James
Title: Today's Papers saith right-wing nut-job Ann Coulter:"My pretty-girl allies stick out like a sore thumb amongst the corn-fed, no make-up, natural fiber, no-bra needing, sandal-wearing, hirsute, somewhat fragrant hippie chick pie wagons they call 'women' at the Democratic National

Re: quote du jour

2004-07-28 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Ann Coulter is channeling Dick Cheney again... ? Ken.

American know how

2004-07-28 Thread Dan Scanlan
Title: American know how 200 Female U.S. Soldiers RAPED in Iraq by U.S. Troops Miles Moffeit / Denver Post, 2004-07-15 Rape kits call attention to assaults By Miles Moffeit Denver Post Staff Writer Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - Sexual-assault organizations across the country are shipping

Security Fences: Palestine and Kashmir

2004-07-28 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
'Security Fences': Palestine and Kashmir: http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/security-fences-palestine-and-kashmir.html

How Mass is Mass Media?

2004-07-28 Thread Carrol Cox
What percentage of the adult population watches Fox News? What percentage of the adult population watches ABC and/or CBS and/or NBC but _not_ Fox? What percentage of the adult population watches Local News but no network news? What percentage of the adult population watches watches local news

Re: How Mass is Mass Media?

2004-07-28 Thread Devine, James
Kenneth Burke repeats a conversation in which one party says, I'm a Christian, and the other party replies, Yes, but who are you a Christian AGAINST? according to one observer, the following sign was seen at the DP convention. Which Way Would Jesus Vote? [sigh] jd

John Kerry and Hubert Humphrey

2004-07-28 Thread Louis Proyect
(The Atlantic Monthly is a centrist magazine.) Atlantic Unbound | July 27, 2004 Convention Dispatch | by Jack Beatty Humphrey Redux? Like Humphrey in '68, Kerry is out of step with voters on an upopular war . Unity is the regnant clich about this convention and this party. The Democrats are

Re: Diminishing Expectations

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/04 8:37 AM Michael Hoover wrote: but conversations here indicate that we sure do live in the age of diminishing expectations, which in itself gives people fewer reasons to spend time on political activism. above was yoshie...

FW: Iraq's Labor Upsurge Supported by U.S. Unions

2004-07-28 Thread Devine, James
the article below seems of interest. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine Iraq's Labor Upsurge Wins Support From U.S. UnionsBy David BaconOnce the U.S. occupation of Iraq began over a year ago, Iraqi workers lost no time in reorganizing their country's labor

Outfoxed?

2004-07-28 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Outfoxed? (If conservatives exaggerate liberalism of the corporate media beyond recognition, liberals, too, are hyping the power of the Fox News Channel far more than its actual total viewership warrants): http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/outfoxed.html.

Re: The Blind Swordsman Zatoichi

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/04 11:42 AM In Hollywood, the blind are represented in film either as pitiful victims, such as in Wait Until Dark, or as comic figures like Mr. Muckle, who tears apart W. C. Fields's shop in It's a Gift. Leave it to the Japanese to come up with somebody like Zatoichi, the

Re: The Blind Swordsman Zatoichi

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/04 5:38 PM finally: blind swordsman films inspired 71 entitled 'deaf mute heroine' directed by wu ma, one of number of hk martial arts films featuring women... michael hoover neglected to mention that helen ma had lead role in above... mh

Re: quote du jour

2004-07-28 Thread Robert Naiman
Let's start a campaign to demand that Republican women officials denounce Ann Coulter. If this could be classified as an ethnic slur, wouldn't there be a firestorm? Why is this tolerated? Why is this person on TV? At 11:55 AM 7/28/2004 -0700, Devine, James wrote: saith right-wing nut-job Ann

Re: quote du jour

2004-07-28 Thread Devine, James
Just to get your blood boiling, here's another quote from Ann Coulter: Conservatives believe man was created in God's image, while liberals believe they are gods. All of the behavioral tics of the liberals proceed from their godless belief that they can murder the unborn because they, the

Facing South/July 27, 2004

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Hoover
F A C I N G S O U T H July 27, 2004 * Issue 85 INSTITUTE INDEX * Elections at Risk Number of felons purged from Florida's voter lists in the 2000 elections: 173,000 Number that weren't felons and were wrongfully barred from voting: 50,000 Number of felons Florida had planned to remove from

Re: How Mass is Mass Media?

2004-07-28 Thread Dan Scanlan
Kenneth Burke repeats a conversation in which one party says, I'm a Christian, and the other party replies, Yes, but who are you a Christian AGAINST? according to one observer, the following sign was seen at the DP convention. Which Way Would Jesus Vote? Only evidence available is who he threw out

North Korea: Open For Business -- A Bit

2004-07-28 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
BusinessWeek Online JULY 26, 2004 . ASIAN BUSINESS North Korea: Open For Business -- A Bit North Korea remains poor, but Kim's reforms are bringing growth http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_30/b3893074.htm

Russia plays energy card

2004-07-28 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Hindu Tuesday, Jul 06, 2004 Russia plays energy card By Vladimir Radyuhin As global energy demand soars, President Vladimir Putin wants to use oil and gas exports as instruments to speed up Russia's economic revival and enhance its geopolitical weight. RUSSIA HAS embarked on a new

Proposal to Up Minimum Wage Makes Florida Fall Ballot

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Hoover
Proposal To Up The Minimum Wage Makes Florida Fall Ballot POSTED: 6:14 pm EDT July 27, 2004 TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- A proposed constitutional amendment to create a state minimum wage that starts at $6.15 and is tied to inflation made the November ballot Tuesday when it cleared the signature

Farmers' suicides in the US

2004-07-28 Thread michael
I recall reading a book, Wisconsin Death Trip, that discussed 19th C. farm wives depression. I think that farm suicides here might be relatively high, athough some farmers take their frustration out in voiolence of one kind or another. POULTRY GROWERS AT MERCY OF INDUSTRIALIZED AGRICULTURE AND

leading indicators

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Perelman
If consumer confidence is increasing and purchases are flattening, which is the leading indicator? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Adnan Abbas's Call to Humanity

2004-07-28 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Adnan Abbas's 'Call to Humanity' (about a young Iraqi artist): http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/adnan-abbass-call-to-humanity.html -- Yoshie * Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/ * Greens for Nader: http://greensfornader.net/ * Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/

A good NY Times article on the World Bank

2004-07-28 Thread michael perelman
Dugger, Celia. 2004. World Bank Challenged: Are the Poor Really Helped? New York Times (28 July). Wealthy nations and international organizations, including the World Bank, spend more than $55 billion annually to better the lot of the world's 2.7 billion poor people. Yet they have scant evidence

HDI\PPP Michael,Ulhas and Michael

2004-07-28 Thread Paul
[See what happens with some encouragement - soon I'll be overposting! I'll try to make this the last.] 1)Uhlas writes: Paul was trying to show how PPP numbers overstate the economic growth in the developing countries. I am not sure I understand how he has reached that conclusion. For India, from

Harlem/Bangladesh

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Perelman
Regarding Paul's suggestion about infant mortality recall the recent study comparing infant mortality in Harlem and Bangladesh. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu