Re: Drawing a Line

1998-01-08 Thread Eugene P. Coyle
Tom Walker wrote that he (and Max) want to hear more about accounting. I missed Max' post somehow and am only responding to Tom's desire to find the >>missing link that >>I'll call "labour accounting within capitalism". Tom take a look at an old book, JM Clark's "Studies in the Economics of Ove

Re: Drawing a Line

1998-01-08 Thread Tom Walker
Max Sawicky wrote, >I'd like to hear more >on the substance of the accounting issues, which >really get my juices flowing. I'd like to hear more, too. It seems to me that there is a missing link that I'll call "labour accounting within capitalism". Having done a literature scan on accounting i

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-30 Thread Doug Henwood
R. Anders Schneiderman wrote: >Right now, the IMF is demanding >"deregulation" without saying that they'll refuse to bail out the Big Boys >when they get into trouble again--a sure-fire recipie for future disasters. It's even worse than that. The IMF is pushing for a capital account convertibili

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-30 Thread R. Anders Schneiderman
At 01:15 PM 12/28/97 -0400, Tom Kruse wrote: >One of my ocncerns is the way bailouts are really cover for "lockins" into >free trade regimes, de-regulation, etc. So, concretely, what would a >bailout for S. Korea look like that: > >- protects the most vulnerable small savers and small businesses

RE: drawing a line

1997-12-29 Thread Aidi A Rahim
Walter Daum[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 29, 1997 11:55 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: re: drawing a line > > > On: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 14:05:31 -0500, Doug Henwood > <[EMAIL PROTECTED

re: drawing a line

1997-12-29 Thread maxsaw
> . . . > political end. Here's part of a recent column by the beloved Pat > Buchanan (NY Post, 11/29): I'd like to note that on the level of op-ed analysis, Buchanan's comments here are unimpeachable. The only wrinkle in the quote is the gratuitous, jew-baiting reference to Goldman Sachs.

re: drawing a line

1997-12-28 Thread Walter Daum
On: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 14:05:31 -0500, Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Except that these international bailouts, unlike the S&L resuce, don't cost U.S. taxpayers anything. The Treasury made a profit on the Mexico bailout, and the Bretton Woods institutions are also profit-makers.> I know

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread maxsaw
> . . . > validating those threatened financial practices. Anyone here want to risk a > global deflation? > > When it goes on a spree, big finance takes lots of hostages. I wouldn't, but I don't think the authorities would either, which ought to create opportunities for concessions. That's

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread maxsaw
> From: Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > . . . > Except that these international bailouts, unlike the S&L resuce, don't cost > U.S. taxpayers anything. The Treasury made a profit on the Mexico bailout, > and the Bretton Woods institutions are also profit-makers. The question is how

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread Doug Henwood
Thomas Kruse wrote: >One of my ocncerns is the way bailouts are really cover for "lockins" into >free trade regimes, de-regulation, etc. So, concretely, what would a >bailout for S. Korea look like that: > >- protects the most vulnerable small savers and small businesses >- lets the big wasters

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread Doug Henwood
James Devine wrote: >In a somewhat muddled op-ed article in today's L.A. TIMES, Perotoid Populist >Kevin Phillips had an interesting suggestion: that any bail-outs of "elite" >financial institutions be paid for by a tax on financial transactions, >rather than out of general revenues. He called th

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread Thomas Kruse
>> And a note: it seems to me that a central part of a progressive "no bailout" >> policy would be pointing to the record of how such bailouts "structurally >> adjust" millions outside the US into ever greater instability, vulnerabilty >> and lower wages. In fact, I would suggest that working ou

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread maxsaw
> From: James Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In a somewhat muddled op-ed article in today's L.A. TIMES, Perotoid Populist > Kevin Phillips had an interesting suggestion: that any bail-outs of "elite" > financial institutions be paid for by a tax on financial transactions, > rather than out

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread Tom Walker
A practical response to bailouts requires attention to something the left generally hasn't been too interested in: accounting standards. The New York Times article on the IMF's New Look contains two paragraphs that sum up the contrast between the arcane practices that actually determine the politi

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread James Devine
In a somewhat muddled op-ed article in today's L.A. TIMES, Perotoid Populist Kevin Phillips had an interesting suggestion: that any bail-outs of "elite" financial institutions be paid for by a tax on financial transactions, rather than out of general revenues. He called this "privatizing." Jim De

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-27 Thread maxsaw
> From: Thomas Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Max's drawing a line post is very timely, very to the point: we really must > hash out what a progressive position on bailouts should be. I agree that > these are the sorts of crises we will see more of. As evidenc

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-27 Thread Thomas Kruse
Max's drawing a line post is very timely, very to the point: we really must hash out what a progressive position on bailouts should be. I agree that these are the sorts of crises we will see more of. As evidenced by the NYT article attached below, the mainstream press also seems to see th

Drawing a Line

1997-12-27 Thread maxsaw
It seems to me that our politics lacks the right response to the current and incipient financial events. By "our" I include both a liberal, muddle-through stance and a radical, sit-back-and-gawk posture. The Administration is going to support IMF bail-outs and some of the left is going to be