Re: Charles and Race Theory 2

2002-05-28 Thread Waistline2
On Marxline you wrote" >Melvin, >The shortest answer to all you say in these many, many posts is that "race" is a >historical category. Basically, my answers will focus on that. You are wrong when >you assert, argue, assume, insist, write at length, that race is only a biological and >not a hist

RE: Charles and Race Theory 2

2002-05-29 Thread Forstater, Mathew
Both 'purely' natural (biological) and social theories of race are wrong (though if they are the only available the social is certainly preferable, imo). The reason why the purely social theory is incomplete is because of the "physiognomic rule" -- physiognomic traits are biologically inherited.

Re: Charles and Race Theory 2

2002-05-29 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Charles Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You are absolutely wrong. I assert that race is an ideological category existing in the superstructure without a material reality. === Amen. Ian

Re: Charles and Race Theory 2

2002-05-30 Thread Waistline2
“Black and white, unite and fight!” is extremely disheartening to a man that believes in “Proletarians of the World Unite!, and “Workers and Oppressed People of the World Unite!,” which appears to perhaps be historically obsolete, given our current stage in the development of capital world wide.

RE: Re: Charles and Race Theory 2

2002-05-30 Thread Forstater, Mathew
hat it isn't "real". Or that just because someone is anti-racist that they do not benefit from their "whiteness" in a white supremacist society. -Original Message- From: Ian Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:19 PM To: [EMAI