Re: God: a socialist view

2003-08-24 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
> Nothing here to trouble an atheist Whether or not my view might trouble an atheist or not, is not something I can definitely predict in advance of research. To the extent that atheists wish to close down theological schools, religious studies departments, churches, temples and mosques and so for

Re: God: a socialist view

2003-08-24 Thread Shane Mage
Jurriaan wrote: "...my particular view of God is...that...God refers to a universal characteristic of the human (sub-)conscious mind, which every human being gets gratis in virtue of being a member of the human species...We could be more or less aware of that transcendent human quality, the highest

Re: Justin's fingers strike gold again was Re: God

2002-02-27 Thread ravi
Carrol Cox wrote: > > I'd love to know what a whopper mits is. > and do they serve fries mit that? --ravi (sorry for b/w waste, couldnt resist)

Justin's fingers strike gold again was Re: God

2002-02-27 Thread Carrol Cox
Justin wrote: > so how can there be an all-good, > all-knowing, and all-powerful God whopermits . . . I'd love to know what a whopper mits is. All-powerful indeed. Carrol

Re: Re: RE: God

2002-02-27 Thread Ken Hanly
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:43 AM Subject: [PEN-L:23251] Re: RE: God > >There is a very powerful argument against the existence of a a 3-A God: >the problem of evil. > >jks >>CB: Yes, and are those who are agnostic about God agnostic

Re: Re: Re: RE: God

2002-02-27 Thread Greg Schofield
wledge. --- Message Received --- From: Carrol Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:13:19 -0600 Subject: [PEN-L:23272] Re: Re: RE: God Greg Schofield wrote: > > It could be said that God exists is so far as it > is a projection of (hu)man (which p

Re: Re: RE: God

2002-02-26 Thread Waistline2
Beginning in 1978 Zecharia Sitchin - one of the world renown linguist, revolutionized this field of inquiry - including a substantial translation of Gilgsmesh, with his "12th Planet," "The Stairway to Heaven." "The Wars of Gods and Men," "The Lost Realms," "When Time Began," "Devine Encounters,

Re: Re: RE: God

2002-02-26 Thread Carrol Cox
Greg Schofield wrote: > > It could be said that God exists is so far as it > is a projection of (hu)man (which puts a different > twist on atheism then the simple contention that > it does not). No it doesn't; the claim that god is a human projection _presupposes_ the non-existence of god,

Re: RE: God

2002-02-26 Thread Greg Schofield
--- Message Received --- From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:31:43 -0800 Subject: [PEN-L:23257] RE: God Good points below (Jim and Charles). It could be said that God exis

RE: RE: God

2002-02-26 Thread michael pugliese
See Jeffrey Russell Burton's 5 vols. on the Devil from Cornell U. Press. And, yup, I can't imagine say, Hans Kung or Jurgen Moltmann, say believing in that guy with horns and pitchfork. BTW, Proctor & Gamble has for yrs. been, 'er, bedeviled, with allegations over the yrs. by Xtian fundies tha

Re: RE: God

2002-02-26 Thread Doug Henwood
Forstater, Mathew wrote: >I always liked Lennon's (not Lenin's) definition: > >"God is a concept by which we measure our pain." > >Though I'm not exactly sure what it means. And there's Wallace Stevens' line - "sad men made angels of the sun" Doug

RE: God

2002-02-26 Thread Forstater, Mathew
I always liked Lennon's (not Lenin's) definition: "God is a concept by which we measure our pain." Though I'm not exactly sure what it means.

RE: God

2002-02-26 Thread Devine, James
Charles writes:>Your view sounds like Marx's. Marx doesn't say God doesn't exist, but that God is alienated man ( which I take to be humanity). And directly to what you say, he says the basis of irreligious criticism is man (sic) makes religion, religion doesn't make man. ( A feminist critique mig

Re: Re: RE: God

2002-02-26 Thread Carrol Cox
Justin Schwartz wrote: > > > > >Or > maybe He doesn't want to, or can't do anuthing about it, or doesn't know? > Any of these hypothese are inconsiastent with the usual three-A God. > The key lines (God himself speaking)in Milton's dramatization of the "Free Will Defense" are: But yet all is

Re: RE: God

2002-02-26 Thread Justin Schwartz
> >There is a very powerful argument against the existence of a a 3-A God: >the problem of evil. > >jks >>CB: Yes, and are those who are agnostic about God agnostic about the >Devil ? > > >JD: I wasn't raised as a Christian, but as I understand that faith, it's >humanity that's the source of evil

RE: God

2002-02-26 Thread Devine, James
There is a very powerful argument against the existence of a a 3-A God: the problem of evil. jks ^ CB: Yes, and are those who are agnostic about God agnostic about the Devil ? *&*&*&*&*&*&*& JD: I wasn't raised as a Christian, but as I understand that faith, it's humanity that's the sourc

Re: God

2002-02-25 Thread Justin Schwartz
> >"Devine, James" wrote: > > > > > > > > As far as I can tell, there's no logical argument either for or against >the > > existence of "god." > >^^^ > >CB: First , what is God ? Next, I would call for a combined logical and >evidentiary argument on the issue ( maybe Jim D. implicitly mea

[PEN-L:4975] re: God & Windows 95

1996-07-04 Thread MScoleman
Joke: God called Bill Clinton, Boris Yeltsin, and Bill Gates. He/She said to them; "As the three most influential people in the world, I just want to let you know I am destroying earth in three days. I'm sick and tired of the fact that you humans can't get along, and I'm cancelling out on the w