Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Expertise

2002-07-30 Thread joanna bujes
> >Yes I do object. With regard to reserach, neither I nor anyone here wants >to be told what to work on. Now, there is some democratization possible in >the decision to fund kinds of projects. The legislature can (and does) >decide to alot a certain amount of funds to, say, cancer research. O

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Expertise

2002-07-29 Thread Justin Schwartz
> >In a message dated 7/29/02 1:49:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > Of course, in politics, the main body of "experts" > > >is the revolutionary party guiding society. > > > > > > > > > Gaak. That is exactly where there and can be no expertise, just >politic

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Expertise

2002-07-29 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Justin Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > if so, is > >that form of truth meaningful in a general context? > > What does that mean? There is one one form of truth, which is, as Aristotle > said long ago, to say of that which is, that it is,a nd that which is

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Expertise

2002-07-29 Thread Justin Schwartz
> >if i may say something as the resident slow thinker: things are >whizzing by at a good speed on this thread but it seems to me >that certain things are not clear (at least to me!). the examples >and analysis (offered by michael p. and others) seems to touch >upon the dangers of letting experts

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Expertise

2002-07-29 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:28811] Re: RE: Re: RE: Expertise > "Could you please describe in plain English the curtailment > of my liberties?" > > Ian you have the right to remain silent... Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine  

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Expertise

2002-07-29 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Justin Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 2:52 PM Subject: [PEN-L:28819] Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Expertise > >"Could you please describe in plain English the curtailment of my >

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Expertise

2002-07-29 Thread Justin Schwartz
> >"Could you please describe in plain English the curtailment of my >liberties?" > >Ian The judge asked him what time it was Reuben said, Five to ten, The Judge said, That's exactly what you get --Hurricane (Bob Dylan) Or as we say in Shytown, you all fucked, cuz. jks _

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Expertise

2002-07-29 Thread Michael Perelman
that expertise is sometimes nothing more than the artificial creation of hierarchy. On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 05:41:18PM +, Justin Schwartz wrote: > > : Expertise > >Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:29:06 -0700 > > > >Writing about expertise, I think that we should recall how Alfred Marshall > >revam

Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Expertise

2002-07-29 Thread Justin Schwartz
: Expertise >Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:29:06 -0700 > >Writing about expertise, I think that we should recall how Alfred Marshall >revamped econ. education -- making it more mathematical, even though he >himself rejected the idea that math was useful for economics -- just to >make it more difficul

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Expertise

2002-07-29 Thread Michael Perelman
His problem wasn't bad advice. The problem of many other people was that they trusted his expertise. On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 02:26:06PM +, Justin Schwartz wrote: > > > > > >Of course, there is expertise, but experts can be very wrong -- especially > >if they go unchallenged. Ask Ken Lay.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Expertise

2002-07-29 Thread Justin Schwartz
> >Of course, there is expertise, but experts can be very wrong -- especially >if they go unchallenged. Ask Ken Lay. > His problem wasn't bad expert advice. It was sheer crookedness. Of course there is bad expert advice. You wanna see my stock portfolio? It's a testament to bad expert advice