Re: Re: Re: RE: Stiglitz on Dubya's tax plan

2003-03-04 Thread dsquared
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003, Eugene Coyle wrote: But for tax purposes, corporations (and individuals) keep a different set of books, using the fastest allowable depreciation rate. Who cares about the true rate? Neoclassical economists, but then again, who gives a fuck what they think? dd

Re: Re: RE: Stiglitz on Dubya's tax plan

2003-03-03 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:09 PM Subject: [PEN-L:35264] Re: RE: Stiglitz on Dubya's tax plan Max B. Sawicky wrote: The 'true' rate is an economic concept, estimated with hairy models, flaky data, and fuzzy

Re: Re: RE: Stiglitz on Dubya's tax plan

2003-03-03 Thread Eugene Coyle
But for tax purposes, corporations (and individuals) keep a different set of books, using the fastest allowable depreciation rate. Who cares about the true rate? For the shareholder books, a different rate -- a slower rate -- is often used. A fast rate minimizes taxes and a slow rate

Re: Re: Re: RE: Stiglitz on Dubya's tax plan

2003-03-03 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Eugene Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:24 PM Subject: [PEN-L:35266] Re: Re: RE: Stiglitz on Dubya's tax plan But for tax purposes, corporations (and individuals) keep a different set of books, using the fastest

RE: Re: RE: Stiglitz and the Baker Institute connection...

2002-11-26 Thread Brown, Martin - ARP (NIH/NCI)
Oh, that Baker! -Original Message-From: e. ahmet tonak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:08 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [PEN-L:32584] Re: RE: Stiglitz and the Baker Institute connection...Brown, Martin - ARP (NIH/NCI) wrote:

Re: Re: RE: Stiglitz and the Baker Institute connection...

2002-11-26 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: e. ahmet tonak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: [PEN-L:32584] Re: RE: Stiglitz and the Baker Institute connection... Brown, Martin - ARP (NIH/NCI) wrote: So is the Baker Institure pro or anti-war?

RE: Re: Re: Stiglitz

2002-08-20 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29632] Re: Re: Stiglitz what is the Scholastic Jubilee? If Stiglitz is calling for scrapping the IMF maybe it's time to revive Peter Dorman's suggestion of the Stochastic Jubilee; clearly it would appeal to the more radical denizens of information

RE: RE: Re: Re: Stiglitz

2002-08-20 Thread Davies, Daniel
be a little while in coming round to supporting this one ... -Original Message- From: Devine, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 August 2002 14:46 To: 'Ian Murray '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Subject: [PEN-L:29639] RE: Re: Re: Stiglitz what is the Scholastic Jubilee

Re: Re: Re: Stiglitz

2002-08-20 Thread Michael Perelman
Ian asked what is the perfect vessel on leftist politics? She does not yet exist, but it is the standard we use for judging others. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Re: Re: Stiglitz interview

2002-08-19 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29614] Re: Re: Stiglitz interview Ken: was not particularly impressed by Stiglitz. He stands out only compared to the complete dolts at the IMF who are not only stupid but obviously arrogant and blind to reality, completely brain-washed by text-book economics and

Re: Re: Re: Stiglitz interview

2002-08-19 Thread Michael Perelman
Stiglitz is important for another reason. He seems to be close to creating a consensus here. On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 06:58:39PM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote: Although I don't know about his remarks about the Marxist regime in Ethiopia, I agree with the above, although I would have put it

RE: Re: Re: Re: Stiglitz interview

2002-08-19 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29621] Re: Re: Re: Stiglitz interview Stiglitz is important for another reason. He seems to be close to creating a consensus here. nah, he's ugly and his mother dresses him funny. ;-) JD

Re: Re: Re: Stiglitz interview

2002-08-19 Thread ken hanly
Well you are no doubt right about that but as Stiglitz claimed most of these people actually believe they are doing the right thing in terms of development yet they are blind and arrogant even within their own narrow framework. Two examples: 1) The IMF favors countries with balanced budgets

Re: Re: Re: Re: Stiglitz interview

2002-08-19 Thread Carrol Cox
Ken, allow for the power of ideology. And in general it's strategically important not to explain the enemy in terms of intelligence. I always told my freshman comp students, if the idea you are attacking seems incredibly stupid and easy to demolish, consider seriously that you don't understand

Re: Re: Re: Stiglitz

2002-08-18 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: Some of us are quick to attack Stiglitz. Certainly he is an imperfect vessel on leftist politics. Henry Liu's initial post was useful in reminding us about Stiglitz's limitations, but the fact that he has come out from such a prominent position and gone so far call for

Re: Re: Re: Re: Stiglitz

2002-08-18 Thread Michael Perelman
Yes. Both were at the seat of power -- or at least near it; and both recanted. Neither would feel wholly confortable with the views found on this list. Of course, I feel much more kinship to Stiglitz -- quite a bit in fact -- than to McNamara. The point is we can take what we want from people

RE: Re: RE: Stiglitz interview

2002-08-16 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29496] Re: RE: Stiglitz interview that is strange. Now it works. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine -Original Message- From: Doug Henwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 11:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]