Re: Re: Re: RE: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-15 Thread Jim Devine
Brad wrote: But the idea of a gerontocrat who hopes to rule his country nearly absolutely for 50 years giving lessons in political institution design is funny, isn't it? I'll respect Brad's criticism of Castro's dictatorship when he shows that he's in favor of democracy, by critiquing the

Re: RE: Re: RE: Castro on US elections (Britain studies Cuban health care)

2000-11-15 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
man S NSSC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 1:13 PM Subject: [PEN-L:4471] RE: Re: RE: Castro on US elections (Britain studies Cuban health care) your stats are consistent withe the UN ones i just posted. right, maybe the rest of the world,

Re: RE: Re: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-14 Thread Louis Proyect
to speak more accurately, i should compare per income quintiles btwn Cuba and US taking acount purchasing power parity. also, unemployment figures and other social indicators (crime, homeless, housing, etc.). anyone out there have those data for Cuba? if not, why not? wouldn't Fidel want to

Re: RE: Re: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-14 Thread Rob Schaap
-Original Message- From: Justin Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:4240] Re: Re: Castro on US elections. I am not nearly as aggressive a defender of Cuba as Yoshie, and I am very concerned about the lack

RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-14 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
rom: Rob Schaap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:4401] Re: RE: Re: Re: Castro on US elections. G'day Norman, Can't help you with too many facts - perhaps Louis might come to the rescue. But Cubans do enjoy universa

Re: Re: RE: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-14 Thread Eugene Coyle
How about ending the experiments in El Salvador and Guatamala? Those experiments with the market are not "kind of cruel" but brutal. I don't understand how capitalism is judged only by US and Europe and not how it is functioning in Indonesia, etc. Gene Coyle Brad DeLong wrote: agreed,

Re: Re: RE: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-14 Thread Justin Schwartz
As opposed to what, Brad, the sort of lovely regimes we've installed and supported all over Latin and Central AMerica? We destroyed Nicaragua's revolution--are the Nicaraguans better off? I have profound unhappiness with the lack of democracy in Cuba, but unlike the countries in the US

Re: RE: Re: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-14 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
at the facts - if they are available. engineers love facts! norm -Original Message- From: Justin Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:4240] Re: Re: Castro on US elections. I am not nearly as aggressive

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-14 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Norman S NSSC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:09 AM Subject: [PEN-L:4403] RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Castro on US elections. yes, i know the US has treated Cuba and other S.A. countries shabbily ever since it became a world power. can't do much

Re: Re: RE: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-14 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Rosser -Original Message- From: Brad DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:00 PM Subject: [PEN-L:4406] Re: RE: Re: Castro on US elections. agreed, Fidel, a dictator, head of the "dictatorship of the proletariat", ha

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-14 Thread Eugene Coyle
up in Cuba. if US boats start heading south, then it's time the US adopted Fidel's system! norm -Original Message- From: Rob Schaap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:4401] Re: RE: Re: Re: Castro on US elections

Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-14 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
, November 14, 2000 1:26 PM Subject: [PEN-L:4415] Re: RE: Re: Re: Castro on US elections. Norm, No. The relevant comparisons are with other Latin American and Caribbean nations. On those measures the lot of the poorest people in Cuba, and even those in the median positions, look pretty

Re: Re: Re: RE: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-14 Thread Ken Hanly
clue what to do. - Original Message - From: Brad DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 10:34 PM Subject: [PEN-L:4448] Re: Re: RE: Castro on US elections. I agree that Brad's illusions are grotesque. It in no way follows from what Fidel says that no cha

Re: Re: Re: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-10 Thread Brad DeLong
The US has had no effective change of goverment in 41 years. Capital has ruled throughout. Such an incisive analysis. Are we next to be told that there is no fundamental distinction between the Nazi party and Lyndon Johnson because they are both forms of rule of the bourgeoisie? It's amazing

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-10 Thread Jim Devine
someone wrote: The US has had no effective change of goverment in 41 years. Capital has ruled throughout. Brad wrote: Such an incisive analysis. Are we next to be told that there is no fundamental distinction between the Nazi party and Lyndon Johnson because they are both forms of rule of the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-10 Thread Ken Hanly
I am glad you appreciate my analysis. There are important differences, important enough to support other capitalist nations in a war against Germany. However, the US apparently did not think these differences warranted going to war except very late in the game. In fact many supported the Nazi

RE: Re: Re: Re: Castro on US elections.

2000-11-09 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
ccurate analogy. Cheers, Ken Hanly - Original Message - From: Brad DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 9:14 PM Subject: [PEN-L:4155] Re: Re: Castro on US elections. "The United States, such a vocal advocate of multi-party syste