Re: Gas and oil short-termery reprise

2001-08-12 Thread Michael Perelman
One side effect of the rapid depletion of natural gas is that the helium deposits that are commingled with the gas are also being depleted. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901

Re: Re: Gas and oil short-termery reprise

2001-08-12 Thread Mark Jones
Helium is a really serious issue which lightminded respondents don't get. A few years back I was at the Druzhba pipeline-head in Orenburg, southern Urals, where an amazing quantity of helium was vented into the air as an unusable byproduct of natgas, much to the embarrassment of the Russian

Re: gas

2001-07-04 Thread Michael Pollak
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Doug Henwood wrote: Why compare the price oil to other commodities? There's probably a high degree of correlation among commodity prices, based on the stage of the business cycle and inflationary expectations. Let's be Keynesian in spirit and use the wage unit as our

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2001-06-28 Thread Stephen E Philion
Gee Mark, I thought it was the sentiment of Robert Brenner perhaps? Doesn't he say that gold is god in addition to class struggle is not important? Steve On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Mark Jones wrote: Doug Henwood wrote: Oh yes, it's much more sensible to give ourselves over the growth in the

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2001-06-28 Thread Doug Henwood
David Shemano wrote: Mark Jones and Yoshie Furuhashi ask why Nixon severed the link to gold in 1971. See the attached link entitled Why Nixon Left Gold: http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/01-08-99.html. I make no claim to being an expert in the specifics. I am certainly not going to

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2001-06-28 Thread Jim Devine
At 10:38 AM 6/28/01 -0400, you wrote: David Shemano wrote: Mark Jones and Yoshie Furuhashi ask why Nixon severed the link to gold in 1971. See the attached link entitled Why Nixon Left Gold: http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/01-08-99.html. I make no claim to being an expert in the

Re: gas

2001-06-27 Thread Michael Perelman
We have to be careful to distinguish short run from long run phenomena here. Prices are not a good indication of scarcity. In my Natural Instability book, I discussed the prices of passenger pigeons, which stayed low while the bird became extinct. Oil prices might be different if the

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2001-06-27 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: We have to be careful to distinguish short run from long run phenomena here. Prices are not a good indication of scarcity. No they're not, though Mark seemed to be treating them as such. The gyrations in oil prices over the last 30 years, from $10 to $40 a barrel,

RE: gas

2001-06-27 Thread Mark Jones
Doug Henwood What happened? Has Armageddon been rescheduled? Nah, it's just a short-term fluctuation. So Krugman counts as an energy expert for you? Mark Jones

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2001-06-27 Thread David Shemano
Doug Henwood wrote: - We have to be careful to distinguish short run from long run phenomena here. Prices are not a good indication of scarcity. No they're not, though Mark seemed to be treating them as such. The gyrations in oil prices over the last 30 years, from $10 to

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2001-06-27 Thread Doug Henwood
David Shemano wrote: You have to figure in the constant monetary inflation/deflation experienced since Nixon severed the dollar's link to gold. I'll bet that if you compared the price of oil over the past thirty to other commodities, you would find that the price of oil has not changed much

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2001-06-27 Thread David Shemano
Doug Henwood wrote: --- Why compare the price oil to other commodities? There's probably a high degree of correlation among commodity prices, based on the stage of the business cycle and inflationary expectations. Let's be Keynesian in spirit and use the wage unit as our

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2001-06-27 Thread Doug Henwood
Mark Jones wrote: Doug Henwood wrote: You have to figure in the constant monetary inflation/deflation experienced since Nixon severed the dollar's link to gold. I'll bet that if you compared the price of oil over the past thirty to other commodities, I didn't write that. David

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2001-06-27 Thread David Shemano
Mark Jones wrote: You may have captured the MO but what about the motive? Is the Fed like a Chinese emperor or a keynesian economist, sitting in a high place divorced from reality and making decisions about money supply without any material motivation or reason? Why did the Fed

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2001-06-27 Thread Doug Henwood
David Shemano wrote: Why does any government inflate the money supply? Debasing the currency is a favorite hobby for governments going back to the Romans and beyond. Why would the good old USA be any different? Once Nixon severed the link to gold in 1971, the money supply was at the complete

Re: gas

2001-06-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
David writes: Mark Jones wrote: You may have captured the MO but what about the motive? Is the Fed like a Chinese emperor or a keynesian economist, sitting in a high place divorced from reality and making decisions about money supply without any material motivation or reason?

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2001-06-27 Thread Jim Devine
At 07:38 PM 06/27/2001 -0400, you wrote: Why does any government inflate the money supply? Debasing the currency is a favorite hobby for governments going back to the Romans and beyond. That doesn't explain the timing of the decision. it also doesn't recognize that it's not _the government_

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2001-06-27 Thread Ian Murray
David Shemano wrote: Why does any government inflate the money supply? Debasing the currency is a favorite hobby for governments going back to the Romans and beyond. Why would the good old USA be any different? Once Nixon severed the link to gold in 1971, the money supply was at

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2001-06-27 Thread David Shemano
Mark Jones and Yoshie Furuhashi ask why Nixon severed the link to gold in 1971. See the attached link entitled Why Nixon Left Gold: http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/01-08-99.html. I make no claim to being an expert in the specifics. I am certainly not going to psychoanalyze Richard

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2001-06-27 Thread Eugene Coyle
David Shemano sometimes says interesting and provocative things. But I'm sticking with William Jennings Bryan. Gene Coyle David Shemano wrote: Mark Jones wrote: You may have captured the MO but what about the motive? Is the Fed like a Chinese emperor or a keynesian

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2001-06-27 Thread christian11
Why does any government inflate the money supply? Debasing the currency is a favorite hobby for governments going back to the Romans and beyond. Why would the good old USA be any different? Once Nixon severed the link to gold in 1971, the money supply was at the complete mercy of the

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2001-06-27 Thread Mark Jones
Doug Henwood wrote: Doug Henwood wrote: You have to figure in the constant monetary inflation/deflation experienced since Nixon severed the dollar's link to gold. I'll bet that if you compared the price of oil over the past thirty to other commodities, I didn't write that.

Re: Re: Gas prices

2000-09-16 Thread Barnet Wagman
Our resident enviro economist Jim Barrett says it is supply problems in the U.S. -- failure to maintain refinery and pipeline capacity. The regulatory component is about five cents to the gallon. Certainly, but haven't gas prices risen in Europe as well? And haven't world crude prices

Re: Gas prices

2000-09-15 Thread Max Sawicky
Our resident enviro economist Jim Barrett says it is supply problems in the U.S. -- failure to maintain refinery and pipeline capacity. The regulatory component is about five cents to the gallon. mbs A former student who is now in Congress wants me to tell him why gas prices are high. Do you

Re: Re: Gas prices

2000-09-15 Thread Jim Devine
At 12:38 AM 9/15/00 -0400, you wrote: In a message dated 9/15/00 12:17:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: why gas prices are high. Do you have any inputs that I should pass on? Isn't the FTC looking into possible antritrust violations? Tell him to ask over there. --jks

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2000-09-15 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
I doubt this would reveal much. In my experience, the role of oligopoly or monopoly in gas prices mostly causes asymmetry: gas prices rise quickly in step with oil prices, while they fall slowly following oil prices down. The high gas prices have to do with high oil prices

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2000-09-15 Thread Michael Perelman
Better land use planning would be more effective. As a place, such as Chico, sprawls out, public transportation becomes virtually useless. Lisa Ian Murray wrote: What duration and combination of high oil prices and low interest rates would induce a significant level of investment to get rid

Re: Gas prices

2000-09-14 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/15/00 12:17:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: why gas prices are high. Do you have any inputs that I should pass on? Isn't the FTC looking into possible antritrust violations? Tell him to ask over there. --jks