Re: relevance

2001-06-22 Thread Carrol Cox
Doug Henwood wrote: > > Michael Perelman wrote: > > >I don't see biotechnology creating a wave of enthusiasm > >comparable to the Internet. > > But, to be fair, you probably wouldn't have seen the wave of > enthusiasm about the Internet either. Not that anyone could, but > betting against thi

Re: Relevance

2001-06-21 Thread LeoCasey
There is a relationship of these debates over modes of production, South Africa, etc. to politics, but it is a highly mediated relationship. Take, for example, the suggestion that Trotsky's formulation of "uneven and combined development" is the best way to conceive of South African development

Re: Re: relevance

2001-06-21 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: >I don't see biotechnology creating a wave of enthusiasm >comparable to the Internet. But, to be fair, you probably wouldn't have seen the wave of enthusiasm about the Internet either. Not that anyone could, but betting against things for capital to enthuse about is gen

Who said miracle? was RE: relevance

2001-06-21 Thread Stephen E Philion
Michael asked Mark: > > Isn't this getting pretty personal, Mark? > Mark responded: > No, it's a reflection of exchanges Doug and I have had from time to time. I > hope that Doug's question will indeed open up a discussion about what is > relevant, and why. For my part, I'm saying inter alia: Th

Re: relevance

2001-06-21 Thread Michael Perelman
Yes, yes, yes. This is important. And I would love to see us address the degree that resource constraints are binding in the short-run. Ricardo has been talking about resource constraints in China. Just this morning, Tim passed on the report about California and global warming and water. Ener

Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: relevance

2001-06-21 Thread Doug Henwood
Mark Jones wrote: >why is there this slowdown that the Fed >can't help by reducing rates? Because it's more of a 19th century slowdown than a post-WW II one, with a financial hangover from the burst Nasdaq/tech bubble, and a real sector one from overinvestment in gadgets. It's probably going

RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: relevance

2001-06-21 Thread Mark Jones
Doug Henwood wrote: > That's me, Mr Sport! I'm used to Mark, I can take it. So coming straight to the point, why is there this slowdown that the Fed can't help by reducing rates? Mark

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: relevance

2001-06-21 Thread Mark Jones
Michael Perelman: > > > I don't disagree with you about the new economy. I have a section in my > new book that says pretty much what you say, but the way you said it might > seem offensive to Doug. I hope not. He is usually a good sport. I like to think of any needles I unintentionally insert

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: relevance

2001-06-21 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: >I don't disagree with you about the new economy. I have a section in my >new book that says pretty much what you say, but the way you said it might >seem offensive to Doug. I hope not. He is usually a good sport. That's me, Mr Sport! I'm used to Mark, I can take it.

Re: RE: Re: RE: relevance

2001-06-21 Thread Michael Perelman
I don't disagree with you about the new economy. I have a section in my new book that says pretty much what you say, but the way you said it might seem offensive to Doug. I hope not. He is usually a good sport. On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 08:32:40PM +0100, Mark Jones wrote: > Michael Perelman wrot

Re: RE: relevance

2001-06-21 Thread Michael Perelman
Mark Jones wrote: > I don't think it's so much a debate about the origins as about the > destination of capitalism, and also about what kind of politics we should be > arguing for. yes, but much of the argument gets off track. > On the general question of relevance, for some years now you and

Re: RE: relevance

2001-06-21 Thread Louis Proyect
>We have, therefore, to get used to a period of sharply-reduced corporate >profitability and lower investment returns and this poses a serious >challenge for the City. Fund managers will find that generating high >investment returns will be a lot harder in the next 10 years than in the >last 10. >

RE: relevance

2001-06-21 Thread Mark Jones
Doug Henwood: > > > Does this endless debate over the origins of capitalism have any > relevance? I don't think it's so much a debate about the origins as about the destination of capitalism, and also about what kind of politics we should be arguing for. That's why there may be consensus about no

RE: relevance

2001-06-21 Thread Max Sawicky
Does this endless debate over the origins of capitalism have any relevance to contemporary politics? I don't think it has to - I'm not demanding relevance as a precondition for debate. Just curious about the volume and vehemence of it all. Doug no, but the concept of hydraulic lock-in deserve

Re: relevance

2001-06-21 Thread Michael Perelman
Excellent question. That is why I asked on how we have moved beyond the old mode of production debates. On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 12:06:53PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: > Does this endless debate over the origins of capitalism have any > relevance to contemporary politics? I don't think it has to

Re: RE: Re: Relevance, was Re:mita

2001-05-29 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.apocalyptic-theories.com/gallery/horsemen/durerhorsemen.html - Original Message - From: "Max Sawicky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:38 AM Subject: [PEN-L:12364] RE: Re: Relevance, was Re:mita > hey, I&#

Re: Re: Relevance, was Re:mita

2001-05-29 Thread Louis Proyect
>OK. Tim and Tom are correct, except they did not mention the nastiness >that is getting more frequent. I have not seen anything new for a while, >so why don't we drop it. Thanks. >-- >Michael Perelman Actually I am taking the day off tomorrow to prepare my final post. After that we can go ba

Re: Relevance, was Re:mita

2001-05-29 Thread Michael Perelman
OK. Tim and Tom are correct, except they did not mention the nastiness that is getting more frequent. I have not seen anything new for a while, so why don't we drop it. Thanks. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL

RE: Re: Relevance, was Re:mita

2001-05-29 Thread Max Sawicky
hey, I'm worse than that. I'm the four horsemen of the Apocalypse, all wrapped into one. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine This brings to mind an equine image, but not the apocalypse dudes. mbs

Re: Relevance, was Re:mita

2001-05-29 Thread Jim Devine
At 10:59 AM 5/29/01 -1000, you wrote: >The way you argue I get the sense that Devine is a >bigger enemy of the people than Reagan...and about as dumb a one also... hey, I'm worse than that. I'm the four horsemen of the Apocalypse, all wrapped into one. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bel