Carrol Cox:
Brad is an enemy, but one can talk to him just as Chou tried to talk to
Dulles one morning during the Geneva Conference. (They both arrived
early one morning; Chou offered to shake hands, Dulles snubbed him.) In
the present case Lou is playing a marxist version of Dulles's style,
enha
Doug Henwood wrote:
>
> Michael Perelman wrote:
>
> >
> True enough, but it's an odd model of dialogue that will admit only
> people in fundamental agreement with each other. I guess it's the
> left version of Richard Feinberg's wonderful comment that democracy
> only works when there's fundame
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From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> all of what you said made total and utter sense except the last word.
Hobbes
> is the one who presented the "public goods" argument first. He wasn't
not
> the "might makes right" sort of the Bush administration. Instead,
Title: RE: [PEN-L:32724] Re: RE: Re: Maquiladoras not beneficial
I said:
> It's
> > not the same as the self-perception and self-justification of
> imperialists
> > that I described.
Ian writes:
> Right, except that I think they're no longer worried about
Dialogue requires a certain degree of courtesy that was often absent from
his posts.
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 02:22:32PM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote:
> Michael Perelman wrote:
>
> >Lou is correct on several points. Brad typically supports neo-liberal
> >policies abroad and, at least to my mind, he
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From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Ian, Ian, Ian! you're getting too close to reality! the efforts by
> individual parts of the military-industrial complex (or the whole
shebang)
> to gain advantage for themselves is part of the reality of imperialism.
It's
>
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I described:
> > the standard way that the US imperialists see it: the US provides "international public goods" from which the other countries -- including the totally dominated ones -- benefit. The countries tha
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From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> this is the standard way that the US imperialists see it: the US
provides
> "international public goods" from which the other countries -- including
the
> totally dominated ones -- benefit. The countries that don't go alon
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Ian:
> Not long after 9-11 there was a "town hall" type meeting in Europe
> featuring a woman from the Council on Foreign Relations [if I remember
> correctly] that was broadcast on late night radio in Se
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From: "Doug Henwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Don't forget the U.S.'s junior partners, like Canada, the EU, and
> Japan, who sometimes act as if they're above the imperial screwing
> even as they benefit from it.
>
> Doug
Not long after 9-11 there
Michael Perelman wrote:
Lou is correct on several points. Brad typically supports neo-liberal
policies abroad and, at least to my mind, he is more often than not wrong.
Also, the 3 people he mentioned did leave in disgust about Brad's
behavior. I thought that it would have been healthier to hav
Lou is correct on several points. Brad typically supports neo-liberal
policies abroad and, at least to my mind, he is more often than not wrong.
Also, the 3 people he mentioned did leave in disgust about Brad's
behavior. I thought that it would have been healthier to have dialogued
with Brad, but
A little while ago I discovered that Brad Delong has an article
defending neoliberalism in Mexico on his website that originally
appeared in Foreign Affairs:
http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/Econ_Articles/themexicanpesocrisis.html
It is very useful, even if totally wrong--especially when read i
Title: RE: [PEN-L:32701] Re: Maquiladoras not beneficial
to me, it doesn't matter that much whether deLong is a right-winger or not. I can filter out his right-wing opinions, just as I do with the New York TIMES or U.S. National Public Radio. Just as I filter out a lot of the crap that
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Also, many of the maq's are shutting down as contractors flee to China and
other low cost labor.
Michael Perelman
<<<>>>
just released international labour organization report indicates 200,000 such jobs
have shifted to china... michael hoover
Sabri Oncu wrote:
I don't know what troll means but I happen to have some ideas
about right wingers. I hold that a necessary, but not sufficient,
condition for being a leftist is the recognition that the US is
an imperialist state screwing most of the rest of the world.
Don't forget the U.S.'s
Michael wrote:
> I don't think that Brad DeLong is a right winger
> or a troll. Among economists, he would rank as a
> left liberal.
I don't know what troll means but I happen to have some ideas
about right wingers. I hold that a necessary, but not sufficient,
condition for being a leftist is th
Also, many of the maq's are shutting down as contractors flee to China and
other low cost labor.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
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I don't think that Brad DeLong is a right winger or a troll. Among
economists, he would rank as a left liberal.
I did not appreciate the way he went of on anti-Stalinist/Maoist rants.
His posts on such subjects were more emotional than rational. I have seen
recent posts of a similar vein regardi
What Louis quoted is true. What you may have seen is that the maq. wages
are higher than the prevailing wage, since manufacturing jobs are scarce
relative to the total job market.
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 10:22:17AM -0800, Bill Burgess wrote:
> At 01:04 PM 12/2/2002 -0500, Louis quoted:
>
> >Maqu
Bill Burgess wrote:
At 01:04 PM 12/2/2002 -0500, Louis quoted:
Maquiladora workers receive wages considerably below those paid to
non-maquiladora manufacturing workers.
What is it about the stats I've seen quoted by bourgeois economists that
makes it possible for them to represent the opposi
At 01:04 PM 12/2/2002 -0500, Louis quoted:
Maquiladora workers receive wages considerably below those paid to
non-maquiladora manufacturing workers.
What is it about the stats I've seen quoted by bourgeois economists that
makes it possible for them to represent the opposite as true?
Bill
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