Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote: >I doubt that PK is really endorsing Jim Hightower-type populism, but >it's notable that he's breaking with the IMF-type view that populism is >a dirty word. In a Fortune column in 1999, PK said that Sweden in 1980 would have been his social ideal. That's more than your usu

RE: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: PK endorses populism? Ben:>>[paraphrasing PK's possible thoughts] "If one follows this line of thought one might well be led to some extremely radical ideas about economic policy, ideas that are completely at odds with all current orthodoxies.  But I won't try

RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29641] Re: PK endorses populism?   Devine, James wrote: >I doubt that PK is really endorsing Jim Hightower-type populism, but >it's notable that he's breaking with the IMF-type view that populism is >a dirty word. Doug says: In a Fortune column in

RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Sweden is the liberal mainstream ideal because it is viewed as a place with relatively little market-distorting policy and a reliance on tax and transfer mechanisms to uphold social welfare. mbs Devine, James wrote: >I doubt that PK is really endorsing Jim Hightower-type populism, but >it's n

Re: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Ben Day
At 10:00 AM 8/20/2002 -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: >In a Fortune column in 1999, PK said that Sweden in 1980 would have been >his social ideal. That's more than your usual vaguely liberal technocrat >usually says. Where are his politics exactly? > >Doug You've gotta read his 1996 article for Slat

Re: RE: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote: >My impression (at a long distance) is that PK is happy with the role >of as a pundit for the newspaper he's always admired. I would guess >that (on a semi-conscious level) he imagines himself as the next >Keynes, writing "essays in persuasion" and leading a new policy >r

RE: RE: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Davies, Daniel
>> My impression (at a long distance) is that PK is happy with the role of as a pundit for the newspaper he's always admired. I would guess that (on a semi-conscious level) he imagines himself as the next Keynes, writing "essays in persuasion" and leading a new policy revolution... << Oh y

RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote: >response: in my experience (which is more than 20 years old), he's a >technocratic liberal. I remember from his discussions of New York >City (the suburbs of which produced him) that he doesn't like >popular participation in politics. That's what I would have guessed, bu

Re: RE: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Ben Day
At 08:45 AM 8/20/2002 -0700, Devine, James wrote: >Ben:>>[paraphrasing PK's possible thoughts] "If one follows this line of >thought one might well be led to some extremely radical ideas about >economic policy, ideas that are completely at odds with all current >orthodoxies. But I won't try to

RE: Re: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Davies, Daniel
>"If one follows this line of thought one might well be led to some >extremely radical ideas about economic policy, ideas that are completely at >odds with all current orthodoxies. But I won't try to come to grips with >such ideas in this column. Frankly, I don't have the time. I have to get

Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Doug Henwood
Max B. Sawicky wrote: >Sweden is the liberal mainstream ideal because it is >viewed as a place with relatively little market-distorting >policy and a reliance on tax and transfer mechanisms to >uphold social welfare. But they seriously interefere(d) with the labor market and created one of the

RE: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29671] RE: Re: PK endorses populism? > Devine, James wrote: > > >response: in my experience (which is more than 20 years old), he's a > >technocratic liberal. I remember from his discussions of New York > >City (the suburbs of which produ

RE: Re: RE: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-21 Thread Brown, Martin - ARP (NCI)
Subject: [PEN-L:29707] Re: RE: PK endorses populism? At 08:45 AM 8/20/2002 -0700, Devine, James wrote: >Ben:>>[paraphrasing PK's possible thoughts] "If one follows this line of >thought one might well be led to some extremely radical ideas about >economic policy, id

RE: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Yes. There was a Brookings book on Sweden some time ago that motivates their outlook. I don't remember what it said about LM mgmt. max Max B. Sawicky wrote: >Sweden is the liberal mainstream ideal because it is >viewed as a place with relatively little market-distorting >policy and a rel

Re: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread ken hanly
ugust 20, 2002 8:56 AM Subject: [PEN-L:29660] Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism? > Max B. Sawicky wrote: > > >Sweden is the liberal mainstream ideal because it is > >viewed as a place with relatively little market-distorting > >policy and a reliance on tax and transfer mechan

re:Re: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-21 Thread Gassler Robert
-- >From: "Doug Henwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:56 AM >Subject: [PEN-L:29660] Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism? > > >> Max B. Sawicky wrote: >> >> >Sweden is the liberal mainstream i

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Michael Perelman
The Brookings book was quite critical of Sweden, proposing a strong dose of neo-liberalism. Even Richard Freeman was not altogether positive about Sweden. On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 12:31:11PM -0400, Max B. Sawicky wrote: > Yes. > > There was a Brookings book on Sweden some time ago > that motivat

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-21 Thread Doug Henwood
ken hanly wrote: >What Sweden are we talking about? Sweden has been beset by liberal reforms >for more than a decade. According to the Luxemboug Income Study, as of the mid-90s, Sweden had a poverty rate (<50% of median income) of 6.6%, barely changed since 1975; Canada was 12.8%; and the U.S.

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Louis Proyect
>The Brookings book was quite critical of Sweden, proposing a strong dose >of neo-liberalism. Even Richard Freeman was not altogether positive about >Sweden. Social democracy in Sweden was not achieved through piecemeal, legislative baby steps. It came as a result of a general strike in the af

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: PK endorses populism?

2002-08-20 Thread Michael Perelman
Yes, but it did not remain militant. Many of its leaders were devout Christians, and not particularly sympathetic to Marx. I also think that it did come about in baby steps, even though the strike was very important. Also, I think that it was evolved into a general strike, but I am on shakey gr