Re: Re: Re: Re: PK on A16 (fwd)

2000-04-21 Thread md7148
actually, true. Bates changed his position in his later works, but I don't know if dramatically though, to say that rational choice was already implicit in his early works, so the outcome is not suprising. I have to dig into pol.eco notes for this.. in any case, i agree on the basics.. Mine

Re: Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

2000-04-21 Thread Brad De Long
>Brad, you are not missing anything! I was making a critical comment on >Bates' approach to development. I am assuming we are talking about the same >Bates here (Robert). Regarding his _Markets and States_, I don't completely >disagree with the fact that state-led development had biases towards sm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

2000-04-21 Thread Ted Winslow
Jim wrote: > > No, since the rational calculating machines only take into account the > costs and benefits to themselves. It's very common in economics to point to > the difference between individual rationality and efficiency from a more > social perspective. It's true that economists generally

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

2000-04-21 Thread Jim Devine
I wrote: > > Economists list three ways of dealing with "the economic problem" > > (scarcity), which would include problems such as the way in which the > > commercialization of agriculture drives the landless peasants to seek ways > > to survive that involve deforestation and farming on steep hil

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

2000-04-21 Thread Ted Winslow
Jim wrote: > Economists list three ways of dealing with "the economic problem" > (scarcity), which would include problems such as the way in which the > commercialization of agriculture drives the landless peasants to seek ways > to survive that involve deforestation and farming on steep hills, >

Re: PK on A16

2000-04-21 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
* Subject: Mozambique cashew challenge to IMF From: Joe Hanlon ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Date: Sun 10 Oct 1999 - 23:24:45 BST MOZAMBIQUE CHALLENGES WORLD BANK, IMF WITH DECISION TO PROTECT CASHEW NUT INDUSTRY WILL BANK AND FUND BLOCK MOZAMBIQUE'S ADDITIONAL DEBT RELIEF? By Joseph Hanlon, Maput

Re: PK on A16

2000-04-21 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
>BTW, is there anyone on this list who has more knowledge on >Mozambique's cashews? * Africa Faith and Justice Network (AFJN), 401 Michigan Ave. NE, P.O. Box 29378 Washington, D.C. 20017 Tel. 202 832 3412; Fax. 202 832 9051; Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Web: http://www.acad.cua.edu/afjn Can

Re: Re: Re: Re: PK on A16 (fwd)

2000-04-21 Thread Jim Devine
I had written: >Part of the ecological and human crisis is people's free-market responses to poverty. < Mine Doyran writes: >Are we left with no solutions _but_ free market responses to poverty and >ecological crisis? If not, which is what I get from your post, what can be >the alternative so

Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

2000-04-21 Thread Mine Aysen Doyran
Brad, you are not missing anything! I was making a critical comment on Bates' approach to development. I am assuming we are talking about the same Bates here (Robert). Regarding his _Markets and States_, I don't completely disagree with the fact that state-led development had biases towards small

Re: Re: PK on A16

2000-04-20 Thread Brad De Long
>Brad DeLong wrote: > >>A strong bias against relatively small-scale rural producers has been >>one of the worst things about African state-led development over the >>past generation (see Robert Bates's _Markets and States in Tropical >>Africa_, or Dumont's _False Start in Africa_). And it does lo

Re: PK on A16

2000-04-20 Thread Mine Aysen Doyran
Brad DeLong wrote: >A strong bias against relatively small-scale rural producers has been >one of the worst things about African state-led development over the >past generation (see Robert Bates's _Markets and States in Tropical >Africa_, or Dumont's _False Start in Africa_). And it does look lik

Re: Re: Re: PK on A16 (fwd)

2000-04-20 Thread md7148
Are we left with no solutions _but_ free market responses to poverty and ecological crisis? If not, which is what I get from your post, what can be the alternative solutions accessible? Mine Doyran SUNY/Albany >Part of the ecological and human crisis is people's free-market responses >to pov

Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

2000-04-20 Thread Jim Devine
Louis writes: >The real story in Mozambique today is not about cashew nuts, it is about >flooding. As in the case of Venezuela, Honduras and other victims of >"natural" disasters, the cause of widespread suffering and death is very >likely rooted in violent weather patterns spawned by global wa

Re: Re: Re: PK on A16

2000-04-20 Thread Doug Henwood
Louis Proyect wrote: >the cause of widespread suffering and death is very >likely rooted in violent weather patterns spawned by global warming ...not to mention clear-cutting of forests and other reckless land-management practices. Doug

Re: Re: PK on A16

2000-04-20 Thread Louis Proyect
>I think Paul's gotcha. > >A strong bias against relatively small-scale rural producers has been >one of the worst things about African state-led development over the >past generation (see Robert Bates's _Markets and States in Tropical >Africa_, or Dumont's _False Start in Africa_). And it does

Re: Re: PK on A16

2000-04-20 Thread Jim Devine
>I think Paul's gotcha. He doesn't "have me," since (as I said) I wasn't endorsing or condemning the Mozambican export tax on cashews (since unlike PK I didn't claim to know the details of the case). And I notice that you provide us with no specific information about either Mozambique or cas

Re: PK on A16

2000-04-20 Thread Brad De Long
>In the NY TIMES, April 19, Paul Krugman writes: >When Seattle Man >[sic] went to Washington, his activities were coordinated in large >part by a Web site, www.a16.org. Browsing the site, I was struck by >the critique of the World Bank, written by Robert Naiman -- the >activist who threw a pie