RE: RE: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list)

2000-11-30 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
ok, i'll give google a try. norm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 4:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:5120] RE: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list) Don't buy Amazon

RE: RE: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list)

2000-11-30 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:5124] RE: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list) Norm, Try "Is Capitalism Sustainable" edited by Martin O'Connor [Guilford, 1994]still in paperback. Also, "Cyber-Marx" by Nick Dyer-Witheford [University of

RE: Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list)

2000-11-30 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list) There are some fine books in this group, but it's not a coherent list -- looks like it was thrown together by someone with a vague idea that Marxism, socialism, communism etc. were all the same thing. If you are looking for readings _on Marx_, less

Re: Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx?(please check the list)

2000-11-30 Thread Justin Schwartz
The best Marx bio is still David McLellan's Karl Marx. Franz Mehring's older book is good on Marx as a political activist. The new bio by Wheen is interesting but a bit lightweight. I don't care for the Wolff Resnick volume. WR have a silly postmodernist or post-ALthusserian "antiempiricist"

RE: Re: Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx?(please check the list)

2000-11-30 Thread Forstater, Mathew
anks for the zillion references to Marx?(please check the list) The best Marx bio is still David McLellan's Karl Marx. Franz Mehring's older book is good on Marx as a political activist. The new bio by Wheen is interesting but a bit lightweight. I don't care for the Wolff Resnick vol

Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx?(please check the list)

2000-11-30 Thread Colin Danby
Let me associate myself with Mat's comments, and reaffirm that empiricism is *not* the same thing as using and respecting data and taking history seriously. Shallow dichotomies like pomo-empiricist are barriers to understanding. Justin backpedals to say he used "empiricist ... in the sense of

Re: Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx?(please check the list)

2000-11-30 Thread Justin Schwartz
I don't "backpedal": I know a bit about philosophical empiricism, and can also distinguish between what Hume called the strict and philosophical and the loose and vulgar meanings of the term. "Cares" is not intended to denote some inner mental state but to reflect the observable fact that Marx

RE: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list)

2000-11-29 Thread Max Sawicky
Don't buy Amazon. Buy used. You can search and order over the Web and save a ton. Plus Amazon is currently fighting a unionization drive so they're on the shit list. Try searching on Alibris, Powell's, or "used books" with Google. (www.google.com) mbs

RE: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list)

2000-11-29 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
half Of Mikalac Norman S NSSC Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [PEN-L:5118] RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list) i'm thinking of buying the socialist-capitalist list of Amazon books below for starters. trying

Re: RE: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list)

2000-11-29 Thread Justin Schwartz
erback too. Kuhching on the 'ol cash register, Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mikalac Norman S NSSC Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [PEN-L:5118] RE: thanks for the zillion referenc

Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list)

2000-11-29 Thread Colin Danby
There are some fine books in this group, but it's not a coherent list -- looks like it was thrown together by someone with a vague idea that Marxism, socialism, communism etc. were all the same thing. If you are looking for readings _on Marx_, less than half of these would really be appropriate.

Re: Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list)

2000-11-29 Thread Justin Schwartz
While we're on the subject let me plug one neglected classic: I.I. Rubin's _Essays on Marx's Theory of Value_. A great book, maybe The Great Book, on Value Theory, but not an introductory one. --jks _ Get

RE: Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list)

2000-11-29 Thread Forstater, Mathew
speaking of "classics," there is Roman Rosdolsky's THE MAKING OF MARX'S CAPITAL -Original Message- From: Colin Danby To: pen-l; p2 Sent: 11/29/00 4:44 PM Subject: [PEN-L:5132] Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list) There are some

Re: Re: Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx?(please check the list)

2000-11-29 Thread Carrol Cox
Justin Schwartz wrote: While we're on the subject let me plug one neglected classic: I.I. Rubin's _Essays on Marx's Theory of Value_. A great book, maybe The Great Book, on Value Theory, but not an introductory one. --jks But the introduction by Fredy Perlman perhaps would speak to

Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx?(please check the list)

2000-11-29 Thread Colin Danby
If it's introductions we're looking for Tucker's _Marx-Engels Reader_ is arguably the classic; of course it's mainly original writings but if Norm can buy it used it'll be a lot cheaper and easier than printing all that stuff off the web, plus there's the benefit of an intelligent selection.