Tom Walker wrote:
This kind of hijacking selected words out of context and insinuating that
they mean something else is pointless. I would say juvenile, but would be
insulting to children. The context was the role of advertising in the media
and culture. The point is about advertisers promising
One can attack consumerism without calling for the donning of hairshirts.
The consumption described by Mandel -- who was following Marx closely in
this regard -- was not consumerism, but using material means to elevate
oneself. Virtually nothing that you can see advertised on television
would
The consumption described by Mandel -- who was following Marx closely in
this regard -- was not consumerism, but using material means to elevate
oneself. Virtually nothing that you can see advertised on television would
meet that standard.
not even Prozac or Viagra?
Jim Devine [EMAIL
Doug,
From reading your position on consumption over some
time, and Mandel below, I believe Mandel is not with you, nor you with
him. Mandel opens with
>6. The genuine extension of the needs (living standards) of the
>wage-earner, which represents a raising of his level of culture and
Doug Henwood wrote:
a lot of this critique is a rather
undigested rehash of a lot of Puritan hair-shirt crap.
A lot of X is Y. This is the sort of thing that gets an English 101
theme marked down for pure sloppiness.
Carrol
Re: Tran Vanh Dinh. Listed here in Edwin Moise biblio. Moise
is a big source in Gabriel Kolko book from mid 90's on Vietnam
War, specifically on North Vietnamese land reform that has been
for decades subject to alot of debate esp. from Trotskyists and
others I'm familiar with.
Michael
Forstater, Mathew wrote:
Tom writes:
The anxiety isn't over pleasure and sensuality per se, but over the
commodification of pleasure and sensuality
this is Smythe's view, in my understanding.
Mine too. But in all the analyses of this genre I've seen - and along
with Jhally, I'm thinking of
Hey, I got my hair streaked gold last week! It doesn 't show up much on
white though. And the stylist assured me it would wash out, which it
did. But I still don't understand why ANY criticism of consumption
makes the critic a hair-shirter.
Gene Coyle
Doug Henwood wrote:
Forstater, Mathew
Re: Tran Vanh Dinh. Listed here in Edwin Moise biblio. Moise
is a big source in Gabriel Kolko book from mid 90's on Vietnam
War, specifically on North Vietnamese land reform that has been
for decades subject to alot of debate esp. from Trotskyists and
others I'm familiar with.
Michael
Doug Henwood wrote:
I'll bet a
lot of PEN-Lers don't approve of makeup or stylish clothes either.
Michael Perelman writes:
Slanderous lies. PEN-L has a strict fashion code, and my makeup is
impecable.
me too. I'm sure that most of you want to know that when I sit at the
computer
On Monday, February 25, 2002 at 11:33:33 (-0500) Doug Henwood writes:
Tom Walker wrote:
This kind of hijacking selected words out of context and insinuating that
they mean something else is pointless. I would say juvenile, but would be
insulting to children. The context was the role of
Sabri Oncu wrote:
Carrol,
Do you see what I mean?
economists receiving Nobel Price since he ...
You have serious spelling problems with this language and you
better do something about it. Moreover, what is this calling what
everybody else calls football soccer, what everybody
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