Re: Re: Fw:[ASDnet] Abundance (was Naderism)

2001-06-26 Thread Michael Pugliese
> Of course. The Sierra Club nearly came out in favor of a ban on immigration. > www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=Political+Ecology+Group+Sierra+Clu b+immigration&spell=1 http://www.igc.org/peg/imm_env/sierra_b.html http://www.igc.org/peg/imm_env/expose.html Wooing the Sierra Club: Anti-

Re: Re: Fw:[ASDnet] Abundance (was Naderism)

2001-06-27 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Lou, > This is an excellent publication, although I sharply disagree with > their > support of UN troops in East Timor and the Mideast. Leftwing > endorsement of > the UN is just another unfortunate legacy of the New Deal alliance > between > socialists and the liberal bourgeoisie. I can c

Re: Re: Re: Fw:[ASDnet] Abundance (was Naderism)

2001-06-27 Thread Louis Proyect
>*What I can't come at* is damning the west for going in to prevent actual >slaughter from turning into almost inevitable genocide, no matter how much the >west helped to produce the constituent circumstances. Sure, the west now >controls ET, no doubt does so with a single eye on its own ultimate

Re: Re: Re: Re: Fw:[ASDnet] Abundance (was Naderism)

2001-06-27 Thread Rob Schaap
All very convincing to me, Lou. But not of much interest to an East Timorese woman dumbly (or hysterically - different strokes and all that) contemplating her decapitated baby, her butchered husband and her own imminent rape and murder. That's what we're talking about here, and on a biggish scal

Re: Re: Re: Re: Fw:[ASDnet] Abundance (was Naderism)

2001-06-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
Re: "Humanitarian Intervention" http://www.dukeupress.edu/ Point Powerless by Design: The Age of the International Community Michel Feher 184 pages (October 2000) In Powerless by Design Michel Feher addresses Western officials' responses to post-Cold War conflicts and analyzes the reac

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fw:[ASDnet] Abundance (was Naderism)

2001-06-27 Thread Louis Proyect
Rob Schaap: >All very convincing to me, Lou. But not of much interest to an East Timorese >woman dumbly (or hysterically - different strokes and all that) contemplating >her decapitated baby, her butchered husband and her own imminent rape and >murder. This kind of demagogic appeal applies to

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fw:[ASDnet] Abundance (was Naderism)

2001-06-27 Thread Louis Proyect
>In Powerless by Design Michel Feher addresses Western officials' responses >to post-Cold War conflicts and analyzes the reactions of the Left to their >governments' positions. Sometime in the early 1990s, Feher argues, U.S. and >European leaders began portraying themselves as the representatives