RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Atlas shrugged

2001-09-03 Thread Max Sawicky
When analysts speak of a fiscal catastrophe some 50 years hence, what they are actually referring to, strictly in terms of scale, is a public sector analagous to the Euro social-democracies -- spending in the neighborhood of 40 percent. The bulk of this, again in terms of debatable scenarios, is

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Atlas shrugged

2001-09-03 Thread Tim Bousquet
I can't say overall, but there's pretty good figures for workers in the "bracero" program of 1942-1964. There were some 4 million Mexican workers brought in, and ten percent of their pay was withheld from 1942-1950, which was supposed to go to worker "savings accounts." They never got the money--

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Atlas shrugged

2001-09-03 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: >Also, many immigrants pay into social security without being able to >collect. Has anybody ever tried to quantify that effect? The SS Trustees reports use immigrants as one of the demographic variables, with higher levels of immigration meaning more solvency for the s

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Atlas shrugged

2001-09-03 Thread Michael Perelman
Also, many immigrants pay into social security without being able to collect. Has anybody ever tried to quantify that effect? On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 12:20:13PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: > Gar Lipow wrote: > > >Also there is one other point. In the U.S, anyway the increase in the > >ratio of s

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Atlas shrugged

2001-09-03 Thread Doug Henwood
Gar Lipow wrote: >Also there is one other point. In the U.S, anyway the increase in the >ratio of seniors to others is projected to occur alongside a drop in the >ratio of children to population -- so that the total "dependency" ratio >is projected to be a only a tiny bit higher than at present..