Re: Re: Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-14 Thread Ken Hanly
IL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 2:26 AM Subject: [PEN-L:15145] Re: Re: Re: Speaking of volatility > http://members.aol.com/ISWoR/english/ > International Solidarity with Workers in Russia, neo-Trot. > www.left.ru > (I think, that is the URL, neo-Stalinist.) > There used to

Re: Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-14 Thread Michael Pugliese
Message - From: "Ken Hanly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 11:07 PM Subject: [PEN-L:15132] Re: Re: Speaking of volatility > Do you have the figures? Why is this the case do u think? I guess my remark > about the new Russ

Re: Re: Speaking of volatility (Jones)

2001-07-14 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, Tom Walker writes, Tom What strikes me is that Doug, Michael, Yoshie and Mark offered no response to my _programmatic_ reply to Doug. I could be utterly wrong, in which case I would welcome the criticism. But I don't think I'm vague or obtuse. Doug wrote (in a subsequent

Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Ken Hanly
Do you have the figures? Why is this the case do u think? I guess my remark about the new Russian labor law is true though. Cheers, Ken Hanly - Original Message - From: Tom Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 10:55 PM Subject: [PEN-L:15129] Re:

Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Michael Pugliese
I temped for about 6 years. Occasionally, I was told by the secretaries or lower level mgrs. esp. cynics in banking and financial services, how much Wells Fargo or whoever was paying the agency . For a $10 an hr. assignment, they were paying $15. For $12, they were paying $18-20 on up. "Permane

Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Ken Hanly
Doesnt the new labor legislation in Russia turn back the clock! In the US and Canada it would seem that temporary workers are used to keep full time workers from working overtime at a higher wage. Cheers, Ken Hanly - Original Message - From: Tom Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There ha

Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Michael Perelman
Of course, you are correct. No problem with what you are saying. All too often, liberals are left to implement the final stages of austerity. On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 02:20:15PM -0400, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > > If we are to exploit any crisis, what we need is a political program > that goes

Re: RE: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Doug Henwood
Mark Jones wrote: >Tom Walker wrote: > >> There IS a cure for blasé indignation. It is called >> beginner's mind. "In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but >> in the expert's there are few." > >Good stuff, however I fear a return right back to the womb may be necessary >in the

Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Michael Perelman
The 70s were interpreted as a failure of the "left," opening the way for a move to the right as a solution. The failure of this decade will be seen as the responsibility of the right. On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 01:53:01PM -0400, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > Michael Perelman says: > > >Doug, I don't e

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Michael Perelman
Doug, I don't entirely disagree with you, but part of the problem w/ the Asian crisis was that it was localized -- leaving the neoliberal juggernaut relatively unaffected. It was the worst of both worlds -- a crisis with a neoliberal solution. On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 12:34:44PM -0400, Doug Henwo

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: >Nobody is salivating over the prospect of the working class suffer, but it >did not do that well during the Clinton "boom." But I do relish the >downfall of many highly leveraged businesses. > >I recall your glee at the demise of some of the dot.coms -- a >pleasure,which

Re: Re: Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Michael Pugliese
ge - From: "Rob Schaap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 5:12 PM Subject: [PEN-L:15090] Re: Re: Re: Speaking of volatility G'day Doug, > Once again, I have to remark on how weird it is that a bunch of > friends of the worki

Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Rob Schaap
Hi again Doug, > Actually I think it's quite relevant to the intellectual and > political marginalization of left political economy - it has no > analytical vocabulary for talking about "good" times, If the times are usually good for most people, and sustainably so, well, I wouldn't be a lefty

Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Michael Perelman
Nobody is salivating over the prospect of the working class suffer, but it did not do that well during the Clinton "boom." But I do relish the downfall of many highly leveraged businesses. I recall your glee at the demise of some of the dot.coms -- a pleasure,which I shared with you. Although

Re: RE: Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Doug Henwood
Mark Jones wrote: >Doug Henwood: >> >> >> Once again, I have to remark on how weird it is that a bunch of >> friends of the working class are getting all excited about the >> prospects for recession, which means the disemployment of millions >> and lower wages for everyone else. Does the ghos

Re: Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Doug, > Once again, I have to remark on how weird it is that a bunch of > friends of the working class are getting all excited about the > prospects for recession, which means the disemployment of millions > and lower wages for everyone else. Does the ghost of Andrew Mellon > lurk over PEN-

Re: Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-13 Thread Doug Henwood
Once again, I have to remark on how weird it is that a bunch of friends of the working class are getting all excited about the prospects for recession, which means the disemployment of millions and lower wages for everyone else. Does the ghost of Andrew Mellon lurk over PEN-L? Doug