At 04/06/01 09:41 +0100, Mark Jones wrote:
Chris Burford wrote:
In my earlier post entitled 'A People's History of England' I
gave detailed
evidence of why orthodox marxist views on England in the past
gave
prominence to the role of sheep and wool in the emergence of
capitalism in
England,
At 03/06/01 20:56 -1000, you wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Chris Burford wrote:
I wonder now what contemptuous humorous joke Louis Proyect was trying to
stifle when I first enquired whether there had been any discussion of
sheep. If it was anything more than political analysis by sectarian
Steve, please stop grading other people's posts. Write the person off
list if you want.
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:26:43AM +0100, Chris Burford wrote:
At 03/06/01 20:56 -1000, you wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Chris Burford wrote:
I wonder now what contemptuous humorous joke Louis Proyect was
In my earlier post entitled 'A People's History of England' I gave detailed
evidence of why orthodox marxist views on England in the past gave
prominence to the role of sheep and wool in the emergence of capitalism in
England, tracing the development of internal causes but placing it within
On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Chris Burford wrote:
I wonder now what contemptuous humorous joke Louis Proyect was trying to
stifle when I first enquired whether there had been any discussion of
sheep. If it was anything more than political analysis by sectarian
mockery, perhaps he can reveal it.
Chris Burford wrote:
In my earlier post entitled 'A People's History of England' I
gave detailed
evidence of why orthodox marxist views on England in the past gave
prominence to the role of sheep and wool in the emergence of
capitalism in
England,
Morton's classic work does show how you
Michael Perelman:
Actually, Mark privately criticized me for that part of the book.
I said the following about the book on the CrashList:
The importance of The Invention of Capitalism cannot be underestimated.
The history of so-called Primitive Accumulation is still not just
At 01/06/01 11:50 -1000, you wrote:
I have never been a big fan of British sheep. They make me wanna sleep.
Steve
You seem not be be energised by the evidence that Ellen Wood is guilty of a
propagating a non-proletarian analysis of history.
Besides why do you confuse English sheep with
I agree with much of Mark's note, except for the way he dismisses Brenner and
Wood out of hand. Of course, external factors were important as were internal
factors.
On another thread, we're discussing Hegel's the whole is the truth. I think that
that aphorism is appropriate here. Certainly
When was this? Arguably, England was not backward in terms of political
development, from before the Norman Conquest. No European state was as
mature as Edward the Confessor's. And when was the following? Arguably,
there were always labour shortages in England, except for brief periods in
the
A rising tide of nausea when faced with the prospect of getting into this
debate yet again meant that my copy-editing of my last humble effort was
parsimonious even by my own generally reckless standards. But since I took
the trouble to answer Chris's post, I suppose I should go the extra mile
Actually, Mark privately criticized me for that part of the book. I
mostly agreed with him, but I did not have time to take advantage of his
comments. Still, on the whole, there were stong similarities between the
two.
I did not look at much of the international contribution because I was
Chris Burford wrote:
Although Wood's book A Trumpet of Sedition (with Neal Wood) is
subtitled
'Political Theory and the Rise of Capitalism 1509-1688', the following
passage shows that the issue of wool is important to her
explanation of the
basis of the rise of English capitalism prior to
I believed that at the time when England was exporting raw wool, it was
fairly backward economcally; that the European city states were ahead.
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 12:41:14AM +0100, Mark Jones wrote:
Michael Perelman:
I agree with much of Mark's note, except for the way he dismisses
It seems clear that Louis Proyect has nothing to say himself on the role of
sheep in the rise of capitalism in England.
Does he or anybody else know if Brenner or Woods make any reference to this?
(Humorous ficititious references from Louis Proyect will merely be irritating.)
Chris Burford
Chris Burford wrote:
It seems clear that Louis Proyect has nothing to say himself on the
role of sheep in the rise of capitalism in England.
You're letting Lou get to you, Chris. Let it go, mate.
As for sheep - here's the first verse from an early 16th century poem (cited
in Rickword and
At 02/06/01 01:01 +, you wrote:
Chris Burford wrote:
It seems clear that Louis Proyect has nothing to say himself on the
role of sheep in the rise of capitalism in England.
You're letting Lou get to you, Chris. Let it go, mate
I am merely firing a prudent pre-emptive shot in view of
I have never been a big fan of British sheep. They make me wanna sleep.
Steve
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Chris Burford wrote:
At 02/06/01 01:01 +, you wrote:
Chris Burford wrote:
It seems clear that Louis Proyect has nothing to say himself on the
role of sheep in the rise of
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