Close, but it was the Donatists, and he helped get the Pelagians on the black list. He
called Pelagius a corpulent beast or some such.
I find it indicative that, in the Enkhiridion on Faith, Hope and Love, Augustine
devoted all over a few paragraphs to last of the three.
Course, when Augustine
Louis:
I believe it. I worked with people like him
in Houston. A guy in the next cubicle from me
used to read the bible at lunch.
I used to work with a guy who used to read the bible
at lunch too, although he was not in the next cubicle
from me. After all, I was a dignified product
manager
Hey PEN-L,
Greetings. Long time no post for me.
Concerning the Jesus Factor thread, I recommend a book by Sara Diamond
titled 'Roads to Dominion: right-wing movements and political power in the
United States' (Guilford Press, 1995). Her historical analysis of the
nations right-wing is top notch
I have always thought that the Confessions don't show behavior any more risque than
what a lot of Romans of Augustine's class were doing at the time. More like young fig
stealers make old ascetes who like to talk about how bad they were in the old days,
when they didn't acually do too much.
Well, he was no Caligula, but he was a womanizer, drinker,
partier...Bush was no Caligula either. Course, when Augustine grew up,
he did take part in massacring the Manicheans (if memory serves) and
Bush is toting up some massacres of his own.
Joanna
Chris Doss wrote:
I have always thought that
Doesn't Augustine say somewhere something like, Oh Lord, make me
chaste, but not too soon?
Carrol
Yes, in the Confessions.
Joanna
Carrol Cox wrote:
Doesn't Augustine say somewhere something like, Oh Lord, make me
chaste, but not too soon?
Carrol
Virtuous, isn't it, not (just) chaste. Lord, make me
virtuous - but not yet. ... This from a dim
recollection, and I am too lazy too look it up. jks
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Yes, in the Confessions.
Joanna
Carrol Cox wrote:
Doesn't Augustine say somewhere something like,
I watched this Frontline PBS documentary last night and urge everybody
to look at the show's website, which has a lot of useful information:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/
Although most of us had some inkling about Bush's connections to the
Christian right, this show
Do people really believe the story about the devout Bush? Some of the
incidents reported coincide with his wild days. It sounded like a puff
job to me.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
either way, It's scary.
Jim D.
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Do people really
Do people really believe the story about the devout Bush? Some of the
incidents reported coincide with his wild days. It sounded like a puff
job to me.
--
Michael Perelman
I believe it. I worked with people like him in Houston. A guy in the next
cubicle from me used to read the bible at lunch.
Like Balzac put it: Young whores make old nuns. Though I do loathe
it's representation of women, I do believe the theory applies to Bush.
Did for Augustine anyway.
Joanna
Louis Proyect wrote:
Do people really believe the story about the devout Bush? Some of the
incidents reported coincide with
Michael Perelman wrote:
Do people really believe the story about the devout Bush? Some of the
incidents reported coincide with his wild days. It sounded like a puff
job to me.
I haven't followed the details, but there is nothing inherently
contradictory between born-again xtianity and wild
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