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Hi, PJM0930. Do you know my friend QZX1288?
This raises an interesting question which the
Ricardo Duchesne:
Oviously the
notion that European capitalism developed as a result of the
exploitation of the Third World has been so roundly refuted I need
not elaborate this here. Just a handy, if incomplete, stats: At
most 2% of Europe's GNP at the end of 18th century took the
Well as a matter of fact in my article I cited some
examples from very technologically advanced societies that
have retained "traditional feudal property arrangements"
that successfully operate in the manner so described. One
of the most famous are the Alpine grazing commons in
A proviso on my China commentary (foreseeing a possible
response):
Generally early dynastic expansionism and outwardness
was focused on relatively nearby neighbors, perhaps due to
these neighbors more likely willing to acknowledge China's
self-declared position as the "Middle
On Thu, January 29, 1998 at 16:10:12 (+) Max B. Sawicky writes:
Ricardo Duchesne:
Oviously the
notion that European capitalism developed as a result of the
exploitation of the Third World has been so roundly refuted I need
not elaborate this here. Just a handy, if incomplete, stats:
Exploitation or theft have nothing to do with the
extent to which colonization fueled capitalist
development. What matters are returns in
excess of cost. Even thievery is not possible
without costs to the perpetrator. ...
Sure, but if you only measure the GNP returns of trade, you are
Bill,
After I responded I realized I may have
misunderstood what you and LP said.
I agree the colonizer's gain could be more than
offset by the victimized country's economic
losses, so that we could say in net terms
capitalist colonization did not contribute to the
world's productive
It should be noted that although he technically
conquered Tibet, Emperor Qianlong allowed local autonomy
and left the theocracy of the Dalai Lamas in place. He
also conquered Xinjiang, a conquest that would hold except
for a brief period in the 20th century. Thus his
expansionism was
As regards China, a long historical pattern there,
drawing heavily on internal conditions but affecting its
external relations, was the pattern of the dynastic cycle,
tied in turn to the management of the agro-hydraulic
infrastructure.
Typical dynasties, at least quite a few of them,
Ricardo Duchesne:
Oviously the
notion that European capitalism developed as a result of the
exploitation of the Third World has been so roundly refuted I need
not elaborate this here. Just a handy, if incomplete, stats: At
most 2% of Europe's GNP at the end of 18th century took the form of
On Thu, January 29, 1998 at 07:23:19 (EST) PJM0930 writes:
The more relevant question with concern to the environment and
hunter/gatherer societies (including native americans) is whether
their way of life is really ecologically stable. In other words,
there is the idea that the rise to
In my latest post I referred to a paper by myself as
being in the May 1975 issue of _Land Economics_. That was
the May 1995 issue. Among other things I noted the large
literature showing that many traditional societies handled
problems of managing common property resources very well
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Barkley,
Who's to say that traditional societies were more
'ecologically conscious' only because they did not
have available to them more advanced technologies
which would have provided greater benefits from
exploiting natural
Louis says: There are all sorts of mitigating
circumstances that have to be taken into account when judging Singapore,
for example. Jim Devine pointed out that a lot of Singapore's success is
related to the exploitation of Malaysia.
Antonio replies: I can't let this one go. I don't know where
I previously sent out a comment appended to a story in which I corrected the
author regarding applicability of the Railway Labor Act to FEDEX. I feel
compelled to share this correction as well. If my shakey recollection
serves me, Iain is correct. Perhaps someone else knows more.
M.E
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August 17, 1997
We have created a new UPS Strike page. The first item on the new
page is an ACTION CALL to build rallies in support of the
strikers at the UPS center Thursday, August 21st, and every
Thursday thereafter until the strike is won. The rallies are from
Sorry, Swift's _Modest Proposal_ was of course over a century
before *the* Irish Famine. But the point about moral scale
remains.
I apologize for trying to convert chapter numbers from roman numerals
directly after returning from a wine bottling expedition. The references for
my last message should read:
Please see Volume One, Part 5, Chapters 16 and 17 of Capital for an extended
discussion of this, particularly section 4
I said "The longer the boom, the longer the 'real economy' is fragile." I
meant to say that "the MORE the real economy is fragile."
BTW, I am not predicting an instant replay of the Great Depression (though
that scenario seems more likely that when I wrote my 1994 RPE article). The
US and world
Why is Yugoslavia any different? It represents a perversion
of the socialist idea. "Self-interest" was one of the guiding principles of
the original project, a dubious one in light of the original Marxist vision
of "from each according to their needs, to each according to their ability."
This
Why is Yugoslavia any different? It represents a perversion
of the socialist idea. "Self-interest" was one of the guiding principles of
the original project, a dubious one in light of the original Marxist vision
of "from each according to their needs, to each according to their ability."
This
A correction to my post: the word NOT did not appear in the original. It is
of course essential.
--
Raise this to the nth power and you can understand the tasks that would face
a socialist South Africa. Decisions
Hmm, seems like I am constantly apologizing on this
list for some screwup or another. Well, here goes again.
I have to agree with Robin Hahnel that my
characterization that nobody advocating planning had taken
account of a class analysis or how to make it democratic
was off base.
The video "Who's Counting?" about Marilyn Waring is put out by the
National Film Board of Canada not the CBC. If anyone is interested in
it there are two phone numbers:
1-800-267-7710 in Canada
1-800-542-2164 in the US.
I suppose Aussies, Kiwis, etc. can take their
On Sat, 5 Oct 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 06:51:36 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [PEN-L:6490] PEN-L digest 1394
PEN-L Digest 1394
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Fascist Provocations In Hebron
by
Jim D writes
BTW, I checked my department's EconLit cd-rom and Gary Becker's
article on the economics of suicide never got published (at least
not after 1980). I guess that says something good about the
journals.
On the contrary, the journals were so steeped in neoclassical
ideology
Gary becker may or may not have used his wife's suicide as an inspiration for
yet another path breaking article. But what I find more enlightening is the
fact that his wife committed suicide right after the publication of his
article on the economics of marriage. I suspect she could not handle
Mea Culpa.
Yes, it was _Robert_Lucas'_ ex-wife whose expectations were
rational enough to get a clause in their divorce agreement so
that she could get a chunk of his Nobel loot. I still think we
should investigate whether she bribed the Nobel committee
(because that clause was about to
I may be wrong, but I think that Becker's wife's
suicide and his article all predated 1980. In fact,
my memory is that the suicide followed by not too long
his book on Economics and the Family (don't remember
exact title) which came out around 1961 or so. GB is
an old coot. That book had
Barkley writes that Gary Becker's book on the family had the
wonderful assumption that the family has a single utility
function, namely that of Daddy.
If this assumption is true, how could his wife commit suicide?
The only answer is that he wanted her to die! There's no statute
of
While it was true that there was one utility function, daddy's, there was one
utility function because daddy was the altruist and it was in everyone's
interest to maximize daddy's utility. So, while the 'rotten wife' and
'rotten kids' might want to maximize their own utility to the detriment of
One of the authors of the article I cited does have an email address. Article
was Madeline Janis-Aparicio, Steve Cancian and Gary Phillips, "Building a
Movement for a Living Wage," POVERTY AND RACE, Jan/Feb. 1996.
Janis-Aparicio, who is involved in the LA Living Wage Coalition, is reachable
at
Sorry to clog up the airwaves again but Paul's (PEN-
L1026) post has drawn my attention to an error. I said
=
[Iamtherefore slightly uncertain about Paul's
conclusion [PEN-L 939] that a lower interest rate calls
forth a
I notice that my equation turned up very garbled in the Pen-l
archive. Restated to avoid garbling, it was that:
the current rate of inflation
equals
the core rate of inflation, reflecting expected inflation and the
wage/price spiral (inertial or built-in inflation)
plus
additional
Sorry, the table needs correcting.
In the corporate tax rates segment, read
Ireland 38%
Belgium 39%
Germany 45%
Peter Burns SJ
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To all:
Apologies: Jim Devine has kindly pointed out to me that I messed
up the order of the 'three questions' in my last posting, [PEN-L 5422].
Sorry to all:
It results from a last-minute change of numbering order without
cross-checking the remainder of the post for consistency, late at
There was an error in the third poll (MMI) in my
former message: The YES and the NO figures were
interchanged. Here is the correct table:
YES NO Source
37(+6) 45(+1) Norw. "Gallup" Co.
40(+5) 48(+2) "Opinion"
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I have just been reviewing the pen-l list. I see many names who have never
posted. I see people from all over the world.
I read about horrific things occuring around us.
Most of us would like to see the left given a bigger voice in so far as
economics and economic affairs
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