Re: flaring off

2004-03-05 Thread dmschanoes
I was pointing out the critical rupture the scarcity theory makes with Marx's analysis regarding historical necessity and the agent of revoution-- the essential conflict between the means and relations of production. I, and I'm sure not only I, am well aware of your tendency to make every comment

Re: flaring off

2004-03-05 Thread Louis Proyect
DMS wrote: Louis Proyect has submitted a portion of a text designed to prove that the bourgeoisie are in fact driven by shortages of energy and that WWII was the first energy war. Careful reading of the full text makes it very clear, however, that neither the actions of the Japanese, nor the US we

Re: flaring off

2004-03-05 Thread DMS
Louis Proyect has submitted a portion of a text designed to prove that the bourgeoisie are in fact driven by shortages of energy and that WWII was the first energy war. Careful reading of the full text makes it very clear, however, that neither the actions of the Japanese, nor the US were driven b

Re: flaring off

2004-03-05 Thread Louis Proyect
dmschanoes wrote: I think it is painfully clear that the bourgeoisie are not driven forward or backward by an anticipated shortage of petroleum. PEARL HARBOR THE FIRST ENERGY WAR History Today, Dec, 2000, by Charles Maechling Charles Maechling sees the US oil embargo against Japan as the direct

Re: flaring off

2004-03-05 Thread dmschanoes
#x27;ve ever read. dms - Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] flaring off > I am glad that David responded to my question regarding future trends.

Re: flaring off

2004-03-04 Thread Michael Perelman
I am glad that David responded to my question regarding future trends. I happen to think that Lou gave the correct analysis of the hydrocarbon future. I agree with David on the forces leading toward deflation in manufacturing. The runup in commodity prices, such as steel, may be a short run phen

Re: flaring off

2004-03-04 Thread dmschanoes
e scarcity theory, is a regression. dms - Original Message - From: "Louis Proyect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] flaring off > There are two phenomena at work here, but David only seems awar

Re: flaring off

2004-03-04 Thread Louis Proyect
Today, with spot prices near $35/barrel and production more than 80 million barrels a day, overproduction is barely adequate as a description. As new production is brought online, the price of oil will break, and fall below the $10 price of 1998. This, however, will occur only after the price ha

flaring off

2004-03-04 Thread dmschanoes
A short while ago, Michael asked for clarification, or prediction, as to the movement of the US economy.  He received little enough response, which is really too bad. Unless we have all already grasped that what Marx really has done away with, has superceded, in his work is not philosophy so