nonsectarian party-building

2001-03-26 Thread Jim Devine
[was: [PEN-L:9519] Re: Re: Socialism American Workers (was Re: ergonomics, etc.)] 1. The left has to develop a nonsectarian party-building model. It is not sufficient to work for socialism unless the "Leninist" model is dispensed with. In my experience, the phrase "nonsectarian

Re: nonsectarian party-building

2001-03-26 Thread Louis Proyect
In my experience, the phrase "nonsectarian party-building" is an oxymoron. I'm all in favor of having leftist/socialist organizations, but the emphasis has to be on building the _popular movement_, not the party. The party has to be a means to that end, not an end in itself. Jim Dev

Re: Re: nonsectarian party-building

2001-03-26 Thread Carrol Cox
Louis Proyect wrote: Unfortunately, this sounds to me like economism of the "What is to be Done" variety. Not clear. Are you saying the book itself was economist? Carrol

'nonsectarian party-building'

2001-03-26 Thread neil
Jim D., et al., History shows that for the workers to make socialist/workers revolution, to even think seriously of toppling the bourg. state/capitals relations, a Revolutionary marxist Party is needed and has to begin to be built starting in the non- revolutionary period , etc. Yes, we

Re: Re: nonsectarian party-building

2001-03-26 Thread Jim Devine
[please erase if you're not interested.] I wrote: In my experience, the phrase nonsectarian party-building is an oxymoron. I'm all in favor of having leftist/socialist organizations, but the emphasis has to be on building the _popular movement_, not the party. The party has to be a means