thanks for the zillion references to Marx?(please check thelist)

2000-12-01 Thread Charles Brown
KARL MARX (A Brief Biographical Sketch with an Exposition of Marxism) by V.I. Lenin Prepared © for the Internet by David J. Romagnolo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (May 1997) C O N T E N T S PREFACE [Lenin's Biographical Sketch THE MARXIST DOCTRINE Philosophical Materialism Dialectics

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2000-12-01 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
PMSubject: [PEN-L:5185] Re: Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx?(please check the lis . I yield to none in my admiration for Doug. Shall we ask him about his passions? Doug's passions area subject of burning interest. Justin

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2000-11-30 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
ok, i'll give google a try. norm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 4:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:5120] RE: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list) Don't buy Amazon

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2000-11-30 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
thanks, justin, for culling the junk out of this list. norm -Original Message- From: Justin Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 4:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:5121] Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (plea se check

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2000-11-30 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
ok, ths, louis. Novack goes back onto the list. norm -Original Message- From: Louis Proyect [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 4:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:5123] Re: Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (plea se check the list

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2000-11-30 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:5124] RE: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list) Norm, Try "Is Capitalism Sustainable" edited by Martin O'Connor [Guilford, 1994]still in paperback. Also, "Cyber-Marx" by Nick Dyer-Witheford [University of

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2000-11-30 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
] Subject: [PEN-L:5131] Re: Re: Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx?(plea se check the list) Preliminary: You aren't reading Marxism seriously unless you read Amilcar Cabral and the major works of Mao. To see Marxism in gritty practice, see the greatest U.S. book of the 20th century

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2000-11-30 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list) There are some fine books in this group, but it's not a coherent list -- looks like it was thrown together by someone with a vague idea that Marxism, socialism, communism etc. were all the same thing. If you are looking for readings _on Marx_, less

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2000-11-30 Thread Justin Schwartz
The best Marx bio is still David McLellan's Karl Marx. Franz Mehring's older book is good on Marx as a political activist. The new bio by Wheen is interesting but a bit lightweight. I don't care for the Wolff Resnick volume. WR have a silly postmodernist or post-ALthusserian "antiempiricist"

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2000-11-30 Thread Forstater, Mathew
on of methodological, epistemological and ontological questions are important contributions to conversations in and around Marxian economics and political economy. Mat -Original Message- From: Justin Schwartz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/30/00 9:28 AM Subject: [PEN-L:5157] Re: Re: RE: th

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2000-11-30 Thread Colin Danby
Let me associate myself with Mat's comments, and reaffirm that empiricism is *not* the same thing as using and respecting data and taking history seriously. Shallow dichotomies like pomo-empiricist are barriers to understanding. Justin backpedals to say he used "empiricist ... in the sense of

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2000-11-30 Thread Justin Schwartz
I don't "backpedal": I know a bit about philosophical empiricism, and can also distinguish between what Hume called the strict and philosophical and the loose and vulgar meanings of the term. "Cares" is not intended to denote some inner mental state but to reflect the observable fact that Marx

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2000-11-30 Thread Colin Danby
Justin writes: I don't "backpedal": I know a bit about philosophical empiricism, and can also distinguish between what Hume called the strict and philosophical and the loose and vulgar meanings of the term. I'm delighted to know how smart and well-educated you are, but I'm not interested in

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2000-11-30 Thread Justin Schwartz
. I yield to none in my admiration for Doug. Shall we ask him about his passions? Doug's passions area subject of burning interest. Justin is the same person as jks, i.e., me. You seem to be more interested in picking silly nits, like whether we can say "Marx is" rather than "Marx was";

thanks for the zillion references to Marx?

2000-11-29 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
i'm still pawing through all of your references for explaining Marx. also studying the Ohmans' essay cited by Rob. also, reading louis' Morris essay and more of it at his site. Nobody is citing Perelman's prolific Left scholarship (12 at Amazon). Not worth much? (heh! heh!) soon as i can

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2000-11-29 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
, November 29, 2000 8:51 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [PEN-L:5090] thanks for the zillion references to Marx? i'm still pawing through all of your references for explaining Marx. also studying the Ohmans' essay cited by Rob. also, reading louis' Morris essay and more of it at his site

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2000-11-29 Thread Max Sawicky
Don't buy Amazon. Buy used. You can search and order over the Web and save a ton. Plus Amazon is currently fighting a unionization drive so they're on the shit list. Try searching on Alibris, Powell's, or "used books" with Google. (www.google.com) mbs

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2000-11-29 Thread Louis Proyect
Justin: Introduction to the Logic of Marxism - George Novack Dull and antiquated. George was a friend of mine. Whatever he lacks in stylistic panache, he more than makes up for in thoroughness and ease of understanding. As far as the complaint of being "antiquated" is concerned, I suppose this

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2000-11-29 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
half Of Mikalac Norman S NSSC Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [PEN-L:5118] RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list) i'm thinking of buying the socialist-capitalist list of Amazon books below for starters. trying

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2000-11-29 Thread Justin Schwartz
erback too. Kuhching on the 'ol cash register, Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mikalac Norman S NSSC Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [PEN-L:5118] RE: thanks for the zillion referenc

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2000-11-29 Thread Carrol Cox
Preliminary: You aren't reading Marxism seriously unless you read Amilcar Cabral and the major works of Mao. To see Marxism in gritty practice, see the greatest U.S. book of the 20th century, Hinton, *Fanshen.* Ellen Meiksins Wood, *The Retreat from Class: A New "True" Socialism*

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2000-11-29 Thread Colin Danby
There are some fine books in this group, but it's not a coherent list -- looks like it was thrown together by someone with a vague idea that Marxism, socialism, communism etc. were all the same thing. If you are looking for readings _on Marx_, less than half of these would really be appropriate.

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2000-11-29 Thread Justin Schwartz
While we're on the subject let me plug one neglected classic: I.I. Rubin's _Essays on Marx's Theory of Value_. A great book, maybe The Great Book, on Value Theory, but not an introductory one. --jks _ Get

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2000-11-29 Thread Forstater, Mathew
speaking of "classics," there is Roman Rosdolsky's THE MAKING OF MARX'S CAPITAL -Original Message- From: Colin Danby To: pen-l; p2 Sent: 11/29/00 4:44 PM Subject: [PEN-L:5132] Re: RE: thanks for the zillion references to Marx? (please check the list) There are some

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2000-11-29 Thread Carrol Cox
Justin Schwartz wrote: While we're on the subject let me plug one neglected classic: I.I. Rubin's _Essays on Marx's Theory of Value_. A great book, maybe The Great Book, on Value Theory, but not an introductory one. --jks But the introduction by Fredy Perlman perhaps would speak to

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2000-11-29 Thread Colin Danby
If it's introductions we're looking for Tucker's _Marx-Engels Reader_ is arguably the classic; of course it's mainly original writings but if Norm can buy it used it'll be a lot cheaper and easier than printing all that stuff off the web, plus there's the benefit of an intelligent selection.