Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-09-09 Thread Fikret Ceyhun
BRIAN, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PERHAPS RADICAL OR RADICAL ENOUGH.THE ANSWER IS BE RADICAL.FIKRET On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Brian Eggleston wrote: > I am receiving many messages in duplicate. Is anyone else so > afflicted? Is there anything I can do to remedy the problem? > > Thanks. > > B

urpe = upe?

1994-09-03 Thread David Laibman
Dear pen people, I usually just listen in, but THIS discussion requires a comment. I must add my voice to those who strongly oppose dropping "radical." The term does have a number of different meanings, but aside from a few degenerate usages (i.e., "radical new toothpaste cap") it does point

urpe=upe?

1994-09-01 Thread Joe Persky
As I look around URPE the fear is that the average age is advancing about a year per year. Even as a reformer or worse I can realize that we need to do something to make the group seem more with-it. I suggest that we change the name to the Union of Totally Rad Political Economy.

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-09-01 Thread Doug Henwood
The idea of repressing the R in URPE reminds me of Cardenas' electoral strategy in Mexico. In the interest of winning friends on Wall Street and the Mexican upper middle class, Cardenas and his party softened their message, and became the friends of free trade and marketization. So they gave t

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread NOHARAPA
Dear Progressive Economists: As we try and get promoted, and as the crisis on the left continues, of course these questions about changing the name of the RRPE will arise. I prefer the RRPE to keep the existing title, because we are radical, and because RRPE and URPE at least is known; and any

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread Marshall Feldman
>Posted on 31 Aug 1994 at 17:32:31 by Uriacc Mailer (002033) > >Re: URPE = UPE? > >Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 14:31:31 -0700 >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: "Chris Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I do think some of the recent postings on the URPE name

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread Brian Eggleston
I am receiving many messages in duplicate. Is anyone else so afflicted? Is there anything I can do to remedy the problem? Thanks. Brian Eggleston [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread Chris Barrett
I do think some of the recent postings on the URPE name change issue are missing the serious point and attending instead to more trivial matters, such as what difference the name makes on resumes. The real issue concerns the audience accessible to those of us who believe there is a better [feas

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread Peter.Dorman
First, I don't think the word "radical" should be dropped to improve anyone's career chances. It is a matter of principle. Having said that, I will admit to having expunged RRPE articles from my vita, but the real boost came when I also eliminated *any* publication outside the narrow specialty p

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread DICKENS
An organization called UPE will attract different people and develop in a different way than an organization called URPE. Calling ourselves "radical political economists" was already a compromise with the fear of being labelled "Marxist economists." Are we going to end up with an organization wh

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread THOMPSON
It strikes me as naive to believe that one could hide one's political stance by keeping words like radical off of one's resume. If one is so deep in the closet waiting out the seven years to a tenure decision, I suspect it would be hard to find the door at that time. But let's do an empirical te

RE: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread A_CALLARI
Better yet (more in line with this way of thinking-e.g., message below), why not simply call it "economics" and forget about the adjective "political" as well as "radical"? there already are organizations and journals that fill these spaces? why shouldn't there continue to be one that is not afra

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread Peter.Dorman
Doug, this is an oversimplification, but it's a bit like: you're a radical who does desktop publishing as against a practitioner of "radical desktop publishing". Of course, the analogy breaks down at various points, since political economy is not apolitical. But it is not (or at least need not b

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread PLMASON
Jim, Is "critical" a more discerning adjective than "radical?" In any case, a name change isn't going to solve the identity crisis of the "left." peace, patrick l mason

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread Doug Henwood
I don't get this distinction. Does it mean that technique now takes precedence over the challenge to power? Doug Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Left Business Observer 212-874-4020 (voice) 212-874-3137 (fax) On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Peter.Dorman wrote: > This is interesting. My main gripe agai

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread RICHARD P.F. HOLT
I think the big issue is not getting rid of the word "radical" but defining what it means these days. When I talk to my orthodox colleagues it isn't the radical that bothers them but whether we are doing anything relevant or simply just trying to hold on to the old faith. I think its important tha

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread Julie Matthaei
I, for one, don't think that capitalism has the answers; while I support reforms within it, it seems clear to me that an economy centered in and controlled by capital, with its focus on profits and growth, and exploitation of labor and the environment, isn't the best we can do. I also don't bel

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread Jim Devine
I agree with Hugo Radice's comment that it's not URPE that should change its name but if anything should have its name changed it's the RRPE. (I assume that it's Hugo's comment; please sigh sign your names, folks!) My problem is with the word "radical." The Ayatollah Khomenei was "radical." Fr

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-31 Thread HKR
The question of changing URPE's name arose in slightly different form at a meeting of the RRPE Ed Board in Salt Lake City, I think in April 1989. There, the debate was over changing the title of the journal to Review of Political Economy or something similar. But the reason was basically the

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-30 Thread Frank . W . Thompson
I now regret even more that I had to leave before the URPE Summer Conference "Business" meeting (where I assume this issue of excising 'Radical' from our name came up -- as it has before) and I heartily second the postings of Feldpauch, Dorman, and Laffey. There is *much* that could be said

Re: URPE = UPE?

1994-08-30 Thread Mark Laffey
Before there was the Soviet Union, what did self-professed radicals think they were doing? Before there was a democratic state, what did radical democrats think they were talking about? Before there was legislation to attempt to ensure equal opportunity for women, and protection from rape within

URPE = UPE?

1994-08-30 Thread carla feldpausch
To all URPE members or Those Interested Therein: While at the URPE (Union for Radical Political Economists) summer camp, the proposal was bantered about by a few that URPE drop the Radical from their name. One reason mentioned was that people are afraid to list the organiz- ation on their r