Re: [PEN-L] Chinese gunpowder, W. European guns [was: How the West won the wo...

2006-04-06 Thread C Ruiz
In a message dated 4/6/2006 6:48:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My impression is that the Chinese didn't use gunpower to make gunsbecause they really didn't need to. The empire ruled the roost withpredominant power and there was little need to develop new wea

Re: [PEN-L] Chinese gunpowder, W. European guns [was: How the West won the wo...

2006-04-07 Thread Jim Devine
I'm not an economic determinist. (This is partly because usually "economics" is hard to separate from "social relations" and "politics." What is "economics" anyway? markets?) I don't think that Confucianism, Taoism, and Buddhism are against violence _in practice_ (and it's practice that matters in

Re: [PEN-L] Chinese gunpowder, W. European guns [was: How the West won the wo...

2006-04-08 Thread C Ruiz
In a message dated 4/7/2006 12:06:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think that Confucianism, Taoism, and Buddhism are against violence _in practice_ (and it's practice that matters in the end, not theory). Comment:I was referring to "practice" by the common people

Re: [PEN-L] Chinese gunpowder, W. European guns [was: How the West won the wo...

2006-04-08 Thread Jim Devine
me: > I don't think that > Confucianism, Taoism, and Buddhism are against violence _in practice_ > (and it's practice that matters in the end, not theory). On 4/8/06, C Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Comment:I was referring to "practice" by the common people not the state > rulers. You'd thi