Leigh wrote:
On 8/2/07, Marvin Gandall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and it is not the case, in any event, that the least
skilled tend to be more advanced in these areas than the most skilled. I
wonder whether Leigh would agree.
Disagree... More often than not, the least skilled are aware of
On 8/2/07, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
by the way, let me know when hippies think of themselves, and act as,
'hippies'. No, they often act like hippies. But sometimes they think they
aren't hippies.
On a tangent, that can also be applied to the question what is a
'worker'... What
Raghu hits it right, which paraphrases a brief discussion I wrote last week.
There is considerable fuzziness over this. In fact separating the abstract and
the concrete connotations of exploitation might be helpful. Many IT
professionals from India are also entrepreneurs (who literally
A CounterPunch Special Report on the Economy
In Richistan: Fantastic Wealth for a Few; Steady Decline for Many
The Return of the Robber Barons
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
The US economy continues its 21st century decline, even as the Bush Regime
outfits B-2 stealth bombers with 30,000 pound monster
We need some evidence for the following:
Meanwhile, US colleges and universities continue to graduate hundreds of
thousands of qualified engineers, IT professionals, and other
professionals who will never have the opportunity to work in the
professions for which they have been trained. America
On 8/2/07, Anthony D'Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We need some evidence for the following:
Meanwhile, US colleges and universities continue to graduate hundreds of
thousands of qualified engineers, IT professionals, and other
professionals who will never have the opportunity to work in the
On 8/2/07, Anthony D'Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We need some evidence for the following:
Meanwhile, US colleges and universities continue to graduate hundreds of
thousands of qualified engineers, IT professionals, and other
professionals who will never have the opportunity to work in the
The Buffalo In Da' Midst wrote:
I don't feel sorry for the professional bourgeoisie at all. For the
most part, their expectations led to their own problems,
psychological, sociological, and financial.
This belief should make the capitalists happy, since it guarantees
disunity in the working
On 8/2/07, Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Buffalo In Da' Midst wrote:
I don't feel sorry for the professional bourgeoisie at all. For the
most part, their expectations led to their own problems,
psychological, sociological, and financial.
This belief should make the
On 8/2/07, Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This belief should make the capitalists happy, since it guarantees
disunity in the working class.
Carrol
Are foreigners on work visas part of the working class? Does setting
domestic workers against foreigners not guarantee disunity in the
On 8/2/07, raghu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are foreigners on work visas part of the working class? Does setting
domestic workers against foreigners not guarantee disunity in the
working class?
-raghu.
I consider foreign workers on H1b (and other types of) visa as
'self-exploited'
Lou Dobbs -- I mean Paul Craig Roberts -- writes that:
Another deceit is the measure called core inflation. This measure of
inflation excludes food and energy, two large components of the average
family's budget. Wall Street and corporations and, therefore, the media
emphasize core inflation,
On 8/2/07, The Buffalo In Da' Midst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I consider foreign workers on H1b (and other types of) visa as
'self-exploited' bourgeoisie. They tolerate their own exploitation for
personal gain.
Now, look up the word opportunist.
Perhaps. But you have to remember most of them
raghu wrote:
On 8/2/07, Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This belief should make the capitalists happy, since it guarantees
disunity in the working class.
Carrol
Are foreigners on work visas part of the working class? Does setting
domestic workers against foreigners not guarantee
Leigh:
Let me know when they think of themselves, and act as, 'working class'.
Whether they think of themselves as working class is another issue. But they
act as working class because they are working class. Working class does not
always act to the liking of the progressives.
Best,
Sabri
On 8/2/07, Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Leigh:
Let me know when they think of themselves, and act as, 'working class'.
Sabri:
Whether they think of themselves as working class is another issue. But they
act as working class because they are working class. Working class does not
always
On 8/2/07, Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The criticism of high-paid workers (who ARE working-class, not part of
the bourgeosie) introduces a moralistic element into thinking about
class. That is disastrous. Higher wages for already high-pay workers
DOES NOT effect in any way the wages or
As I recall, the index shifted to rents when housing prices were rising [during
the
Reagan Admin?] much faster than rents. It was intended to lower the CPI
[perhaps
when Roberts was in the Treasury Department]
If homeowners make up a majority of the populations, annual payments might make
Marvin Gandall wrote:
By the way, downward or upward pressures on pay and benefits on one group of
workers do tend to affect other groups. Workers, especially union members,
habitually compare their pay movements to others in their workplace and
industry, and employers are required to pay
Carrol wrote:
Borderline cases tend to corrupt analysis. Management (as I would
describe it) is simply part of the capitalist class, their share of
surplus value coming to them in the form of salaries. But Management is
also a rubber-bag category that can be stretched weirdly. According to a
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