Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

On Mar 11, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Devine, James wrote: I know an old comedian who calls himself an alter kacker. There was an old guy in the deep south who had a sex change operation. He was a altered cracker. Dan

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/15/05 5:26 PM Further proof that liberals ain't what they used to be. From a new ABC/WashPost poll. Response to question, Was the war in Iraq worth fighting? YesNo Liberals20 79 what % of liberals opposed vietnam war in 66? 68? as late as

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Better fold. I'm from Waco. At 00:30 15/03/05, Michael Hoover wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/05 4:54 AM It seemed to matter to a lot of radicals from Northeastern suburbs who were rebelling against their parents who ran the establishment. They complained about how John Lindsay said he was not a

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Now the chant sometimes refers to Bush. At 20:21 14/03/05, you wrote: Robert Scott Gassler wrote: It seemed to matter to a lot of radicals from Northeastern suburbs who were rebelling against their parents who ran the establishment. They complained about how John Lindsay said he was not a

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/15/05 3:48 AM Better fold. I'm from Waco. nah, you don't know ocoee... mh -- Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding

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Robert Scott Gassler wrote: It seemed to matter to a lot of radicals from Northeastern suburbs who were rebelling against their parents who ran the establishment. They complained about how John Lindsay said he was not a racist but really did this and this and this... They also would say, I'd

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/05 4:54 AM It seemed to matter to a lot of radicals from Northeastern suburbs who were rebelling against their parents who ran the establishment. They complained about how John Lindsay said he was not a racist but really did this and this and this... They also would say,

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/13/2005 1:23:15 AM Michael Hoover wrote: Because liberalism was close to state power, and because it was capable of co-opting more radical sentiments. Now, it's pretty marginal, even if the Nation's circ is 184,000. Doug not really re. either of above, as for nation (or

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/05 4:44 PM Why does it matter so much what liberals say and do? It's not 1970 anymore. Doug why did it matter then... -- Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/05 4:44 PM Why does it matter so much what liberals say and do? It's not 1970 anymore. Doug why did it matter then... michael hoover -- Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most

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as phil ochs suggested: love me, love me, love me, i'm a liberal... mh -- Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public

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Michael Hoover wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/05 4:44 PM Why does it matter so much what liberals say and do? It's not 1970 anymore. Doug why did it matter then... Because liberalism was close to state power, and because it was capable of co-opting more radical sentiments. Now, it's pretty

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Speaking of lying down with wolves, what do the names Wolfowitz and Wolfensohn mean in German? What does Alterman mean? Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/ I don't know about German, but Alter means old in Yiddish. My parents used to refer to an elderly person

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Why does it matter so much what liberals say and do? It's not 1970 anymore. Doug

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] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/ -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Henwood Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:45 PM To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU Subject: Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves Why does it matter so much what

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Maybe it's because the number of liberals has fallen so much that it's getting to where there almost as few as those on the left? They're getting so that liberal organizations are just as small and pitiful as leftist sects, so we can see them as competitors? Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Devine, James wrote: I think that's the right attitude. Whether someone is a liberal is of secondary or tertiary or even lowerary importance. Labels are much less important than concrete issues of politics. I believe Marx had something along that line to say in the Critique of the Gotha