Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Speaking of "lying down with wolves," what do the names Wolfowitz and Wolfensohn mean in German? What does Alterman mean? Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/

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Speaking of "lying down with wolves," what do the names Wolfowitz and Wolfensohn mean in German? What does Alterman mean? Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/ I don't know about German, but "Alter" means old in Yiddish. My parents used to refer to an elderly pers

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

I know an old comedian who calls himself an "alter kacker." Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/ >>Speaking of "lying down with wolves," what do the names Wolfowitz and Wolfensohn mean in German? What does Alterman mean?<< > I don't know about German, but

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Why does it matter so much what "liberals" say and do? It's not 1970 anymore. Doug

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EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/ > -Original Message- > From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug > Henwood > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:45 PM > To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU > Subject: Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolve

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Maybe it's because the number of liberals has fallen so much that it's getting to where there almost as few as those on the left? They're getting so that liberal organizations are just as small and pitiful as leftist sects, so we can see them as competitors? Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] we

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"Devine, James" wrote: > > Maybe it's because the number of liberals has fallen so much that it's > getting to where there almost as few as those on the left? They're > getting so that liberal organizations are just as small and pitiful as > leftist sects, so we can see them as competitors? I'm no

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

I wrote: >> Maybe it's because the number of liberals has fallen so much that it's getting to where there almost as few as those on the left? They're getting so that liberal organizations are just as small and pitiful as leftist sects, so we can see them as competitors?<< Carrol: > I'm not sure h

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"Devine, James" wrote: > > > I think that's the right attitude. Whether someone is a "liberal" is of > secondary or tertiary or even lowerary importance. Labels are much less > important than concrete issues of politics. I believe Marx had something along that line to say in the Critique of the Go

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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/05 4:44 PM >>> Why does it matter so much what "liberals" say and do? It's not 1970 anymore. Doug <> why did it matter then... -- Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most writt

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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/05 4:44 PM >>> Why does it matter so much what "liberals" say and do? It's not 1970 anymore. Doug <> why did it matter then... michael hoover -- Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public record

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as phil ochs suggested: love me, love me, love me, i'm a liberal... mh -- Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public recor

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Michael Hoover wrote: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/05 4:44 PM >>> Why does it matter so much what "liberals" say and do? It's not 1970 anymore. Doug <> why did it matter then... Because liberalism was close to state power, and because it was capable of co-opting more radical sentiments. Now

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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/13/2005 1:23:15 AM >>> Michael Hoover wrote: Because liberalism was close to state power, and because it was capable of co-opting more radical sentiments. Now, it's pretty marginal, even if the Nation's circ is 184,000. Doug <> not really re. either of above, as for

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

It seemed to matter to a lot of radicals from Northeastern suburbs who were rebelling against their parents who ran the "establishment". They complained about how John Lindsay said he was not a racist but really did this and this and this... They also would say, "I'd rather meet a racist than a lib

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Robert Scott Gassler wrote: > > It seemed to matter to a lot of radicals from Northeastern suburbs who were > rebelling against their parents who ran the "establishment". They > complained about how John Lindsay said he was not a racist but really did > this and this and this... They also would say

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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/05 4:54 AM >>> It seemed to matter to a lot of radicals from Northeastern suburbs who were rebelling against their parents who ran the "establishment". They complained about how John Lindsay said he was not a racist but really did this and this and this... They also woul

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Better fold. I'm from Waco. At 00:30 15/03/05, Michael Hoover wrote: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/05 4:54 AM >>> It seemed to matter to a lot of radicals from Northeastern suburbs who were rebelling against their parents who ran the "establishment". They complained about how John Lindsay said he was

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Now the chant sometimes refers to Bush. At 20:21 14/03/05, you wrote: Robert Scott Gassler wrote: > > It seemed to matter to a lot of radicals from Northeastern suburbs who were > rebelling against their parents who ran the "establishment". They > complained about how John Lindsay said he was not a

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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/15/05 3:48 AM >>> Better fold. I'm from Waco. <> nah, you don't know ocoee... mh -- Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees

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Isn't there a "K" in Wacko? Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/ > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/15/05 3:48 AM >>> > Better fold. I'm from Waco. > <> > > nah, you don't know ocoee... mh

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Further proof that liberals ain't what they used to be. From a new ABC/WashPost poll. Response to question, "Was the war in Iraq worth fighting?" YesNo All 45%53 Democrats 18 80 Independents43 55 Republicans 81 18 Liberals20

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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/15/05 5:26 PM >>> Further proof that liberals ain't what they used to be. From a new ABC/WashPost poll. Response to question, "Was the war in Iraq worth fighting?" YesNo Liberals20 79 <>> what % of liberals opposed vietnam war in 66

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--- Michael Hoover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/15/05 5:26 PM >>> > Further proof that liberals ain't what they used to > be. From a new > ABC/WashPost poll. Response to question, "Was the > war in Iraq worth > fighting?" > YesNo > Liberals20

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> Further proof that liberals ain't what they used to be. From a new > ABC/WashPost poll. Response to question, "Was the war in Iraq worth > fighting?" Why is the past tense used in this question? Jim Devine

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

On Mar 11, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Devine, James wrote: I know an old comedian who calls himself an "alter kacker." There was an old guy in the deep south who had a sex change operation. He was a altered cracker. Dan