Re: A smoke a day keeps the doctor away (Daily Build and Smoke Test)

2001-02-18 Thread Richard Soderberg
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If anyone else would be willing to become a smoker, please step > forward. I'm requesting that Ask set up [EMAIL PROTECTED] (aka The > Smoker's Lounge) for further discussion. I'll let everyone know when > its up. I'm addicted already. I don't ha

Re: A smoke a day keeps the doctor away (Daily Build and Smoke Test)

2001-02-18 Thread schwern
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 09:22:00PM -0800, Richard Soderberg wrote: > I'm addicted already. I don't have the daylight time to put energy into > doing huge amounts of set up on my local machine, but if you have a script > that'll do what you need, I've got a CPU just resting here doing nothing. We

Re: Why t/TEST and not Test::Harness?

2001-02-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 05:34:49AM +0100, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:08:49 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael G. Schwern) >said: > > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 07:20:55PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> >Why is t/TEST anyth

Re: Why t/TEST and not Test::Harness?

2001-02-18 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:08:49 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael G. Schwern) said: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 07:20:55PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >Why is t/TEST anything more than a thin wrapper around Test::Harness? >> >> Because t/TEST pre-

Re: A smoke a day keeps the doctor away (Daily Build and Smoke Test)

2001-02-18 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 06:26:00PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'd like to set up automated daily build and smoke tests for bleedperl > and the other active trees. How many configuration permutations were you proposing? > It will be fairly simple to write and distribute a cron job which >

Re: Why t/TEST and not Test::Harness?

2001-02-18 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 07:20:55PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Why is t/TEST anything more than a thin wrapper around Test::Harness? > > > > Because t/TEST pre-dates Test::Harness by years, and no one has got

Re: Why t/TEST and not Test::Harness?

2001-02-18 Thread schwern
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 06:14:05PM -0500, Andy Dougherty wrote: > > Would anyone scream if I gave a shot at gutting TEST? > > Please make sure 'make minitest' works. Check. I'd forgotten about it. > And also think about what happens if 'use' is broken :-). Bad things, Mikey. Bad things. S

ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-18 Thread schwern
If anyone's not familiar, a daily build and smoke test is the practice of building the entire system and running its tests every night to see if anything was broken durning the day's work. Turn it on, see if it smokes. This reduces the scope of bugs and keeps things from festering. You know the

Re: A smoke a day keeps the doctor away (Daily Build and Smoke Test)

2001-02-18 Thread Alan Burlison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If anyone else would be willing to become a smoker, please step > forward. I'm requesting that Ask set up [EMAIL PROTECTED] (aka The > Smoker's Lounge) for further discussion. I'll let everyone know when > its up. I have 3 identical Ultra1 machines running Solaris 2.

Re: A smoke a day keeps the doctor away (Daily Build and Smoke Test)

2001-02-18 Thread schwern
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 11:33:52PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 06:26:00PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'd like to set up automated daily build and smoke tests for bleedperl > > and the other active trees. > > How many configuration permutations were you proposin

A smoke a day keeps the doctor away (Daily Build and Smoke Test)

2001-02-18 Thread schwern
I'd like to set up automated daily build and smoke tests for bleedperl and the other active trees. If anyone's not familiar, a daily build and smoke test is the practice of building the entire system and running its tests every night to see if anything was broken durning the day's work. Turn it

Re: Why t/TEST and not Test::Harness?

2001-02-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 10:44:44PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 09:08:15PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > I think it was supposed to be TEST with -Mutf8, basically. > > Why it was a separate script? Beats me. > > Well, its not anymore. I've added a -utf8 flag t

Re: [PATCH t/TEST lib/Test/Harness.pm] Adding todo tests

2001-02-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 01:48:50AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A few weeks ago I brought up the idea of unifying the format of todo > tests and skip tests: > http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2001-01/msg00883.html > > Well, here it is. This is a patch to both t/TEST an

Re: Why t/TEST and not Test::Harness?

2001-02-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 10:05:30PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And what the hell is t/UTEST? Looks like its for unicode. Ok, fine, I think it was supposed to be TEST with -Mutf8, basically. Why it was a separate script? Beats me. > but I don't like the code duplication. In fact, it alr

Re: Reorganizing t/

2001-02-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 10:22:13AM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > One additional point to consider and solve is the BEGIN 'preamble' we > > now add to each test to make certain we are in a known directory, and > > more importantly, that we are running the tests using *the* lib/ of > > the Per

Re: Reorganizing t/

2001-02-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> One additional point to consider and solve is the BEGIN 'preamble' we > now add to each test to make certain we are in a known directory, and > more importantly, that we are running the tests using *the* lib/ of > the Perl we are building and not some other lib. Having to add that > preamble ma

Re: Reorganizing t/

2001-02-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> Fortunately, this is a fairly rote process. Unfortunately, its not > easily automatable since the current test naming scheme is > inconsistant. Also, some tests rely on their name being what it is. > No worries, though, this can be done as an incremental process. > > Thought... we might want

Re: Why t/TEST and not Test::Harness?

2001-02-18 Thread schwern
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 07:20:55PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Why is t/TEST anything more than a thin wrapper around Test::Harness? > > Because t/TEST pre-dates Test::Harness by years, and no one has got > round to changing 'make test' call the new style. I

Re: Why t/TEST and not Test::Harness?

2001-02-18 Thread nick
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Why is t/TEST anything more than a thin wrapper around Test::Harness? Because t/TEST pre-dates Test::Harness by years, and no one has got round to changing 'make test' call the new style. >It contains a partial reimplementation, but is missing some very >useful feat

Carp has no test coverage.

2001-02-18 Thread schwern
Carp has almost no explicit coverage in the core tests. Now, before I go ahead and write up a test, does anyone have some old tests lying around from the Olden Days of Yore?

[PATCH t/TEST t/TestSetup.pm] Adding in TestSetup.pm to replace BEGIN preamble on tests.

2001-02-18 Thread schwern
As discussed eariler in http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2001-02/msg00908.html I've added t/TestSetup.pm and made t/TEST use it. I had to be careful to do "-I. -MTestSetup" or else modules which used taint would not work. A few tests which used do EXPR assumed that '.' wo

Re: Putting Test::Harness back on CPAN?

2001-02-18 Thread schwern
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 10:39:54AM +0100, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: > Thanks! I've registered you as maintainer on PAUSE, so that the > indexer will pick your uploads of Test::Harness in the usual way. I had a feeling you'd be all too eager to get it off your hands. ;) I've looked at Test::Harnes

Re: Putting Test::Harness back on CPAN?

2001-02-18 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
Thanks! I've registered you as maintainer on PAUSE, so that the indexer will pick your uploads of Test::Harness in the usual way. -- andreas