Re: Non-Perl TAP implementations

2006-04-17 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-04-18 03:15]: > Tracking the results in an object is a better choice than > scraping from a print buffer. If that were universally true, we wouldn’t have plaintext network protocols, would we? And I think making TAP a protocol instead of an API was the right choice

Re: Non-Perl TAP implementations

2006-04-17 Thread chromatic
On Monday 17 April 2006 18:50, Ovid wrote: > The only problem I see with that is the occasional buffering errors I > see on my Mac where the STDERR and STDOUT don't line up. Agreed. Is it too late to send everything to STDOUT where it belongs? -- c

Re: Non-Perl TAP implementations

2006-04-17 Thread Ovid
--- chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are a lot of reasons why having separate testing and analysis > processes are very good and there are a lot of reasons why having > file-based communication is very, very good. OK, you raise some good points. Then by relying on the output and scra

Re: Non-Perl TAP implementations

2006-04-17 Thread chromatic
On Monday 17 April 2006 18:09, Ovid wrote: > Tracking the results in an object is a better choice than scraping from > a print buffer. One of the frustrating issues with Perl's testing > tools is the limited flexibility we have due to reading the output from > STDOUT. ... an object of which TAP-

Re: Non-Perl TAP implementations

2006-04-17 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tracking the results in an object is a better choice than scraping from > a print buffer. One of the frustrating issues with Perl's testing > tools is the limited flexibility we have due to reading the output from > STDOUT. I like that aspect about TAP...

Re: Non-Perl TAP implementations

2006-04-17 Thread Ovid
--- Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since it looks like we're going to stick with reading information > from > > a print buffer, we should at least publish an EBNF grammar for the > > output. > > Patches welcome! OK, I've a bunch of TPF stuff I'm wrapping up, but if I have some tuits

Re: prove users: Please test P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_04.tar.gz

2006-04-17 Thread Andy Lester
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:14 PM, James E Keenan wrote: Here is a portion of the output of 'prove -vb t/test-harness.t'. Is it what you would expect? The big thing that's a question is in globbing of files on the command line. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:pe

Re: prove users: Please test P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_04.tar.gz

2006-04-17 Thread James E Keenan
Andy Lester wrote: I'm about to release T::H 2.58, but I have a pretty big difference in how globbing is done in prove, per Audrey. Please download and try it out on your box and make sure it's all good. One warning thrown, apparently in t/00compile.t. 37 tests skipped for "various reaso

Re: Non-Perl TAP implementations

2006-04-17 Thread Andy Lester
Since it looks like we're going to stick with reading information from a print buffer, we should at least publish an EBNF grammar for the output. Patches welcome! (Interestingly, if we did that, we could potentially incorporate that into Test::Harness and allow folks to provide their own gram

Re: Non-Perl TAP implementations

2006-04-17 Thread Ovid
--- David Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Test.Simple—JavaScript. It looks and acts just like tap, although in > reality it's tracking test results in an object rather than scraping > them from a print buffer. > >http://openjsan.org/doc/t/th/theory/Test/Simple/ Tracking the results in

Re: prove users: Please test P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_04.tar.gz

2006-04-17 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 01:55:59PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > I'm about to release T::H 2.58, but I have a pretty big difference in > how globbing is done in prove, per Audrey. > > Please download and try it out on your box and make sure it's all good. Tests fine on OS X 10.4.6/perl 5.8.7 dha

prove users: Please test P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_04.tar.gz

2006-04-17 Thread Andy Lester
I'm about to release T::H 2.58, but I have a pretty big difference in how globbing is done in prove, per Audrey. Please download and try it out on your box and make sure it's all good. Thanks! xoox, Andy Begin forwarded message: From: PAUSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: April 17, 2006 1:53:40 P

Re: Non-Perl TAP implementations

2006-04-17 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 17, 2006, at 06:03, Andy Lester wrote: Can you please give me a short couple of sentences on it for someone who has no idea how/why you'd use TAP outside of Perl? It's a direct port of Test::Builder, ::Simple, and ::More, along with a harness for showing test results in a browser. Wh

Re: Non-Perl TAP implementations

2006-04-17 Thread Geoffrey Young
Andy Lester wrote: > > I'm adding a section to Test::Harness::TAP on non-Perl TAP. > > http://svn.perl.org/modules/Test-Harness/trunk/lib/Test/Harness/TAP.pod > > If you know of one, please send me some text to add. all the big PHP players now produce TAP o phpt (outputs TAP by default as

Re: Non-Perl TAP implementations

2006-04-17 Thread Andy Lester
Test.Simple—JavaScript. It looks and acts just like tap, although in reality it's tracking test results in an object rather than scraping them from a print buffer. http://openjsan.org/doc/t/th/theory/Test/Simple/ Can you please give me a short couple of sentences on it for someone who h

Re: Non-Perl TAP implementations

2006-04-17 Thread Andy Lester
How non-Perl do you want? Does the Perl 6 version of Test.pm or Test::Builder/Test::More count? How about the Parrot versions? Sure, lemme have 'em. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: [OT] TDD + Pair Programming

2006-04-17 Thread Adrian Howard
Hi all, On 2 Apr 2006, at 01:04, Jeffrey Thalhammer wrote: I have never actually had an opportunity to practice this, but I've always felt that the most obvious way to combine test-driven development with pair programming was to have one person write test code while the other person writes appl