Re: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:34:49 -0600 (CST), Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: However, usually I end up needing to investigate aspects of the testers platform, often by having them run snippets of Perl code from the shell, or asking them to try a patch. There's not much you can do

Re: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 14:22:05 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas J. Koenig) said: 1. You get a fail report with an error message that doesn't tell you exactly what went wrong. 2. You rewrite your test in a way that it does tell you more. 3. Release. 4. If you now understand

Re: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

2007-12-22 Thread chromatic
On Saturday 22 December 2007 05:22:05 Andreas J. Koenig wrote: 1. You get a fail report with an error message that doesn't tell you    exactly what went wrong. 2. You rewrite your test in a way that it does tell you more. 3. Release. 4. If you now understand the problem, fix it, else goto

Re: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

2007-12-22 Thread chromatic
On Saturday 22 December 2007 12:44:12 David Golden wrote: On Dec 22, 2007 2:12 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how to write a test for Tester's installation of Perl is fatally broken and can't actually install anything. Oh, come on. This is Perl, after all. #

Re: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

2007-12-22 Thread demerphq
On 22/12/2007, David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 22, 2007 3:52 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me rephrase then. I feel dirty writing tests just to trip up testers who can't set up working testing environments. Is this really a problem? Let me flip this around --

Re: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

2007-12-22 Thread chromatic
On Saturday 22 December 2007 16:48:29 Michael G Schwern wrote: The I installed to a directory with a space in the path is an example of CPAN Testers working as expected.  It found and highlighted an annoying bug that the rest of us either ignore or work around. CPAN Testers reporting failures

Re: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

2007-12-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
chromatic wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2007 16:48:29 Michael G Schwern wrote: The I installed to a directory with a space in the path is an example of CPAN Testers working as expected. It found and highlighted an annoying bug that the rest of us either ignore or work around. CPAN Testers

Re: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

2007-12-22 Thread David Golden
On Dec 22, 2007 8:26 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CPAN Testers reporting failures in every module they test and not stopping to ask Hey, is it possible that not everything else in the world is broken? is *not* an example of CPAN Testers working as expected. Environments where it's

Re: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

2007-12-22 Thread chromatic
On Saturday 22 December 2007 21:58:46 David Golden wrote: These are not simple modules. Assuming that some smoker can get these to successfully send you a report, then which scenario seems more likely: (a) that the smoker's installation is fundamentally broken (b) that your distribution

Re: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

2007-12-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
chromatic wrote: I just went through a sampling of fail reports for my stuff. There was one legitimate packaging bug, and a couple of legitimate errors due to updates to Perl. About 35% of the other reports are these. I love the Illegal seek error message: