>>>>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:34:49 -0600 (CST), Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>>>> said:

  > However, usually I end up needing to investigate aspects of the
  > testers platform, often by having them run snippets of Perl code from
  > the shell, or asking them to try a patch. There's not much you can do
  > to automate that.

I'd argue that without any change to today's practice there is a very
easy way to automate this and it goes like:

1. You get a fail report with an error message that doesn't tell you
   exactly what went wrong.

2. You rewrite your test in a way that it does tell you more.

3. Release.

4. If you now understand the problem, fix it, else goto 1.

  > As chromatic mentioned, failures often happen on platforms to which I
  > as a module author don't have ready access, so I need some assistance
  > from the user of that platform.

You're right, there may be cases where you have no idea into which
direction to continue, but 99% of the time you *as a programmer*
should be able to solve the problem without talking to the tester.

-- 
andreas

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