My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-24 Thread James E Keenan
1. A "canned" training session, "Learn Test::Harness 3.0," that would provide the user with a guided tour of T::H 3+ and have him/her actually type and run examples of the new functionality. "Canned" in the sense that at a local Perlmongers meeting everyone could download a tarball and work t

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 25 Mar 2008, at 10:23, Gergely Brautigam wrote: I've been reading the letters for a while now... This group is related to Perl modul testing, or testing with perl? I can't deside :) More or less anything that benefits quality :) -- Andy Armstrong, Hexten

RE: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gergely Brautigam
rg Subject: Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist On 25 Mar 2008, at 01:00, James E Keenan wrote: > 1. A "canned" training session, "Learn Test::Harness 3.0," that > would provide the user with a guided tour of T::H 3+ and have him/ > her actually type and run examples

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 25 Mar 2008, at 01:00, James E Keenan wrote: 1. A "canned" training session, "Learn Test::Harness 3.0," that would provide the user with a guided tour of T::H 3+ and have him/ her actually type and run examples of the new functionality. "Canned" in the sense that at a local Perlmongers m

RE: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gergely Brautigam
Very good :) thank you! -Original Message- From: Andy Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:42 AM To: Gergely Brautigam Cc: perl-qa@perl.org Subject: Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist On 25 Mar 2008, at 10:36, Gergely Brautigam wrote: > Heh :) Alrig

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 25 Mar 2008, at 10:36, Gergely Brautigam wrote: > > Heh :) Alrighty then :) sooo if I would have a perl based test > > environment, then I could ask questions about it here, right? > > > Yes, absolutely :) On the o

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 25 Mar 2008, at 10:36, Gergely Brautigam wrote: Heh :) Alrighty then :) sooo if I would have a perl based test environment, then I could ask questions about it here, right? Yes, absolutely :) -- Andy Armstrong, Hexten

RE: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gergely Brautigam
: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist On 25 Mar 2008, at 10:23, Gergely Brautigam wrote: > I've been reading the letters for a while now... This group is > related to Perl modul testing, or testing with perl? I can't deside :) More or less anything that benefits quality :) -- Andy Armstrong, Hexten

RE: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gergely Brautigam
Actually that is a point I will return to... Thx Gabor, Gergely. -Original Message- From: Gabor Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM To: Andy Armstrong Cc: Gergely Brautigam; perl-qa@perl.org Subject: Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist On Tue, Mar 25

RE: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gergely Brautigam
use perl? :) Gergely. -Original Message- From: Gergely Brautigam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:50 PM Cc: perl-qa@perl.org Subject: RE: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist Actually that is a point I will return to... Thx Gabor, Gergely. -Original Message

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Gergely Brautigam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One last question then I swear I will shut up :) > > Why use perl for testing? Of course all others languages are used for > testing this and that.. What excels perl to be used for testing. Obviusly it > has powerful

RE: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gergely Brautigam
sting language :). I would use JUnit and NUnit for larger project, I don't know if perl could handle it... -Original Message- From: Gabor Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 2:39 PM To: Gergely Brautigam Cc: perl-qa@perl.org Subject: Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wi

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 25 Mar 2008, at 13:53, Gergely Brautigam wrote: Well... We used Java with JUnit and .NET with NUnit... C++ for low level testing and so fort and so on.. They all had there advantages and disatvantages. I use perl for nearly one and a half year now. But appart form the weird syntax and the

RE: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gergely Brautigam
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 2:58 PM To: Gergely Brautigam Cc: perl-qa@perl.org Subject: Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist On 25 Mar 2008, at 13:53, Gergely Brautigam wrote: > Well... We used Java with JUnit and .NET with NUnit... C++ for low > level > testing and so f

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 25 Mar 2008, at 14:05, Gergely Brautigam wrote: Frankly, I don’t know :) Like I said I'm only learning... You know thinking it's only actually a scripting language it can be pretty powerfull, but it stays a scripting language after all. Know higher class decalrations and no higher hiera

RE: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gergely Brautigam
ou in any way. Gergely. -Original Message- From: Andy Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:18 PM To: Gergely Brautigam Cc: perl-qa@perl.org Subject: Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist On 25 Mar 2008, at 14:05, Gergely Brautigam wrote: > Frankly, I do

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 25 Mar 2008, at 14:22, Gergely Brautigam wrote: No it's not :) I was just asking, and answering. I like perl and I will use it more on. I was just filosofing away and trying to get answers for why is perl good. Because when we will get a new project I want perl to be the test environment

RE: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gergely Brautigam
Thank you very much Andy! I case I win... I definatly will! Thx for the link, I will work throuh it! Gergely. -Original Message- From: Andy Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:27 PM To: Gergely Brautigam Cc: perl-qa@perl.org Subject: Re: My Perl QA

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Salve J Nilsen
James E Keenan said: 1. A "canned" training session, "Learn Test::Harness 3.0," that would provide the user with a guided tour of T::H 3+ and have him/her actually type and run examples of the new functionality. "Canned" in the sense that at a local Perlmongers meeting everyone could downlo

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Gergely Brautigam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well... We used Java with JUnit and .NET with NUnit... C++ for low level > testing and so fort and so on.. They all had there advantages and > disatvantages. I use perl for nearly one and a half year now. But appart >

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread James E Keenan
On Mar 25, 2008, at 2:57 PM, Salve J Nilsen wrote: Feel free to show up! Those who do get to decide what to do. ;-) Unfortunately I'm an ocean away and between lack of vacation time and the decline of the US$, I won't be able to attend. Which is why it was a wishlist! But I do follow

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-25 Thread Michael G Schwern
Gergely Brautigam wrote: One last question then I swear I will shut up :) Why use perl for testing? Of course all others languages are used for testing this > and that.. What excels perl to be used for testing. Obviusly it has powerfull regex, > and datahandling capabilities... But besides tha

RE: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-26 Thread Gergely Brautigam
@perl.org Subject: Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist Gergely Brautigam wrote: > One last question then I swear I will shut up :) > > Why use perl for testing? Of course all others languages are used for testing > this > and that.. What excels perl to be used for testing. Obviusly it

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
> -Original Message- > From: Michael G Schwern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > With Test::Harness 3 you can define special behaviors for various test files. > The power of this is that the test scripts can be written in anything, > doesn't > have to be Perl. There are TAP libraries in

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:41:18AM +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Michael G Schwern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The downside is there's no pretty GUIs for TAP, but the potential exists. > > It's a simple matter of programing. The upside is that when a TAP

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now, does anyone know a student? I tried to spam all the local universities but with the current USD exchange rate people get about 30-40% less this year than 2 years ago... ok, I know its not about the money. Gabo

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-26 Thread Ovid
--- Gabor Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder if it would be possible to take the existing .*Unit > libraries > of Java and .Net and > create some wrapper around them (or a replacement) so people with > existing tests > written in those testing system would start producing TAP results. In

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Gabor Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I wonder if it would be possible to take the existing .*Unit > > libraries > > of Java and .Net and > > create some wrapper around them (or a replacement) so people with > > exi

RE: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-28 Thread Gergely Brautigam
t: Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Gabor Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I wonder if it would be possible to take the existing .*Unit > > libraries > > of Java and .Net and &

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Gergely Brautigam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why do I have the feeling that I'm part of a Borg cube ? :D I don't know but I should re-read my sentences *before* I send them. It seems my English gets worse by the hour. Sorry for that. Gabor

Why use Perl for testing? (was Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist)

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 25 Mar 2008, at 12:41, Gergely Brautigam wrote: One last question then I swear I will shut up :) Why use perl for testing? Of course all others languages are used for testing this and that.. What excels perl to be used for testing. Obviusly it has powerfull regex, and datahandling capabi

RE: Why use Perl for testing? (was Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist)

2008-03-25 Thread Gergely Brautigam
mstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 2:20 PM To: Gergely Brautigam Cc: perl-qa@perl.org Subject: Why use Perl for testing? (was Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist) On 25 Mar 2008, at 12:41, Gergely Brautigam wrote: > One last question then I swear I will shut up :) &g