Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-29 Thread Robert
Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 06:28:21PM +, Adrian Howard wrote: PS O'Reilly will have a small book soon ? Oh yeah, that's the developer's testing notebook Ian Langworth and chromatic are working on. On slide 13:

Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:05:28AM -0500, Robert wrote: Tests let you know, right away, when they're screwed up your code Should be: Tests let you know, right away, when they've screwed up your code or Should be: Tests let you know, right away, when they're are screwing up your code

Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-23 Thread Adrian Howard
On 22 Mar 2005, at 19:11, Michael G Schwern wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 06:28:21PM +, Adrian Howard wrote: I can't believe you didn't stick a reference to the perl-qa list there :-) The audience was not Perl programmers. Primarily Haskell and Java. A few people expressed interest in Perl

Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-22 Thread Adrian Howard
On 4 Mar 2005, at 17:15, Michael G Schwern wrote: [snip] There's not nearly enough references, particularly when I expect the audience to go out and work things out on their own. I still can't think of a decent testing book nor tutorial to recommend. Test::Tutorial leaves the reader at a dead

Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 06:28:21PM +, Adrian Howard wrote: I can't believe you didn't stick a reference to the perl-qa list there :-) The audience was not Perl programmers. Primarily Haskell and Java. A few people expressed interest in Perl afterwards but mostly in the form of so why do

Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 06:28:21PM +, Adrian Howard wrote: PS O'Reilly will have a small book soon ? Oh yeah, that's the developer's testing notebook Ian Langworth and chromatic are working on.

Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-04 Thread Michael G Schwern
I just got back from JOIN (Jornadas de Informatica) 2005, a little student run conference at the University of Minho in Portugal. Why this might be of interest is its the same place and largely the same folks who will be running YAPC::Europe. http://natura.di.uminho.pt/join2005/out/news_en.html

Re: Talk: Why You Really Want To Write Tests

2005-03-04 Thread James E Keenan
Michael G Schwern wrote: I was asked to give something about testing to an audience of undergraduate informatics students, largely Haskell and maybe some Java. What I finally came up with is this: http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/talks/Why_Test/ Liked the emphasis on version control. Had to learn