Re: fast question

2004-07-07 Thread David Storrs
On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 06:39:07PM -0600, Luke Palmer wrote: Matija Papec writes: Would there be a way to still use simple unquoted hash keys like in old days ($hash{MYKEY})? Of course there's a way to do it. This is one of those decisions that I was against for the longest time,

Re: fast question

2004-07-07 Thread Luke Palmer
David Storrs writes: On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 06:39:07PM -0600, Luke Palmer wrote: Matija Papec writes: Would there be a way to still use simple unquoted hash keys like in old days ($hash{MYKEY})? Of course there's a way to do it. This is one of those decisions that I was

Re: Time to change the (perl 6) guard! [OT]

2004-07-07 Thread Paul Hodges
--- Austin Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . . Of the qualities you listed for Pumpking: Look, I already told you! I deal with the goddamn customers so the engineers don't have to! I have people skills! I am good at dealing with people! Can't you understand that? What the hell is

Re: Mapping test cases to bug databases

2004-07-07 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 02:55:34PM +1000, Andrew Savige wrote: Suppose I fix a bug with a unique bug ID in a bug tracking system. I start by dutifully adding 15 new asserts, say, to an existing unit test program, to duplicate the bug before I fix it. What if I later want some way to map the

Re: Test functions return values.

2004-07-07 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 09:16:51AM -0700, chromatic wrote: On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 06:58, Francisco Olarte Sanz wrote: I've been looking at the documentation for the test modules (Test::More, Test::Simple, Test::Builder ), and I've found nothing regarding the return value of the ok(),

I'm down. *Again*

2004-07-07 Thread Dan Sugalski
Well, it's wednesday, so this must be... the day my laptop goes in for repair. *Again*, dammit. (For those of you keeping track at home, this is the fourth time in a month) Standard rules apply--I've got limited e-mail access, and no non-work computer access to speak of. (Plus I may well leave

Re: Test::Inline should not capture STDOUT, STDERR

2004-07-07 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 10:18:37PM -0400, Andrew Pimlott wrote: I started using Test::Inline, and I have two related comments. (I hope this is the right place to bring them up.) 1. I don't think that pod2test should do anything more than the minimum to construct a valid test script.

Re: Test::Inline should not capture STDOUT, STDERR

2004-07-07 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 02:42:22PM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote: On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 10:18:37PM -0400, Andrew Pimlott wrote: I started using Test::Inline, and I have two related comments. (I hope this is the right place to bring them up.) 1. I don't think that pod2test should do

Re: Test::Inline should not capture STDOUT, STDERR

2004-07-07 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 05:18:44PM -0400, Andrew Pimlott wrote: pod2test is poorly architected but I don't see anything it does that I'd want in a module. What were you thinking of? I was mostly thinking about the capturing of STDOUT and STDERR, but I'm alsa suggesting it as a general

[perl #30631] [PATCH] Iterator support for Env PMC

2004-07-07 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Matt Kennedy # Please include the string: [perl #30631] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org:80/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=30631 The attached env.patch patches classes/env.pmc to add vtable methods elements()

[perl #30630] [PATCH] classes/bigint.pmc breaks non GMP builds

2004-07-07 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Matt Kennedy # Please include the string: [perl #30630] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org:80/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=30630 This patch was done against parrot_2004-07-07_070001. bigint.patch affects

Re: Test::Inline should not capture STDOUT, STDERR

2004-07-07 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 05:46:12PM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote: I think I threw that in before I realized one could just do: =for testing use Test::More 'no_plan'; This was all very early on in my mucking with the Test:: modules. In fact, no_plan was implemented specificly so I could

Re: Test::Inline should not capture STDOUT, STDERR

2004-07-07 Thread chromatic
On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 17:07, Andrew Pimlott wrote: Interesting. Aside: I'm glad to have it, as the whole plan business was one of the turn-offs of the standard Test modules in the past. Is the tedium of counting tests really worth it for anyone? Tedium is the mother of invention. Add

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-07 Thread Jonadab the Unsightly One
The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Different OO models Jonadab the Unsightly One had wondered about having objects inheriting behaviour from objects rather than classes in Perl 6. Urgle. I've completely failed to explain myself so as to be understood. That wasn't at

Re: Predeclaration of subs

2004-07-07 Thread Larry Wall
On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 07:41:22PM -0600, Luke Palmer wrote: : Considering that: : : $obj.meth foo; : : No longer needs parentheses, and that argument processing is done on the : callee rather than the caller side (well, most of the time), do I still : have to predeclare Cfoo if I want to

Re: The .bytes/.codepoints/.graphemes methods

2004-07-07 Thread Larry Wall
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 10:52:34AM -0500, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote: : On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 08:34:16AM -0700, Austin Hastings wrote: : This has no direct bearing on p6l, since performance is a p6i issue. : But perhaps in the interests of performance as well as hackery we : should explicitly

Re: The .bytes/.codepoints/.graphemes methods

2004-07-07 Thread Larry Wall
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 08:09:51PM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: : On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 10:52:34AM -0500, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote: : : On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 08:34:16AM -0700, Austin Hastings wrote: : : This has no direct bearing on p6l, since performance is a p6i issue. : : But perhaps in the

Re: push with lazy lists

2004-07-07 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 09:32:07PM -0500, Dan Hursh wrote: : how 'bout : : @x = gather{ : loop{ : take time : } : } # can this be @x = gather { take time loop } : push @x, later; : say pop @x;# later Can probably be made to work right. : say pop @x;# heat death? Yes.

Re: if not C, then what?

2004-07-07 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 03:03:49PM -0400, JOSEPH RYAN wrote: : Sure. The parser won't care what kind of characters : make up the operator, as long as its defined by the : time the operator is encountered. The operator : rules in the grammar will probably be as simple as this: : : # where x is

Re: push with lazy lists

2004-07-07 Thread JOSEPH RYAN
- Original Message - From: Larry Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2004 11:25 pm Subject: Re: push with lazy lists On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 09:32:07PM -0500, Dan Hursh wrote: : how 'bout : : @x = gather{ : loop{ : take time : } : } # can this be

Re: push with lazy lists

2004-07-07 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 11:50:16PM -0400, JOSEPH RYAN wrote: - Original Message - From: Larry Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2004 11:25 pm Subject: Re: push with lazy lists On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 09:32:07PM -0500, Dan Hursh wrote: : how 'bout : : @x =