RE: junctions and autothreading

2006-08-21 Thread Conrad Schneiker
> From: Amir E. Aharoni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I've seen the matter of "autothreading" mentioned in various places, > usually together with junctions. It seems like a neat idea, thread > safety concerns notwithstanding. Searching the mailing lists archives, > i found that there were heated de

Re: clarify: does "Dog is Mammal" load Mammal for you?

2006-08-21 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:25:26PM -0500, Mark Stosberg wrote: > In S12, we see a number examples of: > > class Dog is Mammal > http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S12.html > > However, it's not clear if it is necessary to preload Mammal for Dog > to function properly here, or what that

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Uri Guttman
> "CS" == Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CS> On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 07:28:14PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote: >> 80, or 100, or 132 are all some arbitrary limits. But the latter is already >> inconvenient on a 12" powermac with reasonable font size [1]. CS> That's an in

Re: clarify: does "Dog is Mammal" load Mammal for you?

2006-08-21 Thread Darren Duncan
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Mark Stosberg wrote: > In S12, we see a number examples of: > >class Dog is Mammal >http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S12.html > > However, it's not clear if it is necessary to preload Mammal for Dog > to function properly here, or what that syntax would be. >

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 06:49:20PM -0400, Mr. Shawn H. Corey wrote: > Chip Salzenberg wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 06:05:08PM -0400, Mr. Shawn H. Corey wrote: > >> Don't forget that some programs, like mailers, wrap at 80 characters. > > > > I don't know of any mailer that is hard-coded at a

clarify: does "Dog is Mammal" load Mammal for you?

2006-08-21 Thread Mark Stosberg
In S12, we see a number examples of: class Dog is Mammal http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S12.html However, it's not clear if it is necessary to preload Mammal for Dog to function properly here, or what that syntax would be. Testing with current version of pugs, this doesn't happen.

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Bob Rogers
From: Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:07:16 -0700 On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 07:28:14PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote: > 80, or 100, or 132 are all some arbitrary limits. But the latter is already > inconvenient on a 12" powermac with reasonable font size

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Joshua Hoblitt
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 07:28:14PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote: > Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:45 schrieb Chip Salzenberg: > > Well, that's fair. ?Many of us are old enough to have used such limited > > hardware, but it's all surely been relegated to the trashheap by now. ?So: > > Would anyone be

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Mr. Shawn H. Corey
Chip Salzenberg wrote: > On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 06:05:08PM -0400, Mr. Shawn H. Corey wrote: >> Don't forget that some programs, like mailers, wrap at 80 characters. > > I don't know of any mailer that is hard-coded at any given column width. > Do you? Thunderbird, Evolution, just to name two. OK

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Chip Salzenberg
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 06:05:08PM -0400, Mr. Shawn H. Corey wrote: > Don't forget that some programs, like mailers, wrap at 80 characters. I don't know of any mailer that is hard-coded at any given column width. Do you? -- Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Chip Salzenberg
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 07:28:14PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote: > 80, or 100, or 132 are all some arbitrary limits. But the latter is already > inconvenient on a 12" powermac with reasonable font size [1]. That's an interesting and modern metric: minimum common screen size divided by minimum rea

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Mr. Shawn H. Corey
jerry gay wrote: > On 8/21/06, Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My preference: soft limit 80 - keep lines shorter, if it's easy >>hard limit ~100 - you SHALL not exceed it >> > coding standards are quite helpful, but cannot be applied absolutely. > there are good reas

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread jerry gay
On 8/21/06, Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My preference: soft limit 80 - keep lines shorter, if it's easy hard limit ~100 - you SHALL not exceed it coding standards are quite helpful, but cannot be applied absolutely. there are good reasons why a line of code might

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Aaron Sherman
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 08:45 -0700, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:48:59AM -0400, Will Coleda wrote: > > The way you phrase the question, you're not going to get any of these > > answers. Who is programming parrot on their *physical* VT100? =-). > > The primary reason for an

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:45 schrieb Chip Salzenberg: > Well, that's fair.  Many of us are old enough to have used such limited > hardware, but it's all surely been relegated to the trashheap by now.  So: > Would anyone be inconvenienced by exceeding 80 columns regularly; and, how? 80, or 100,

[svn:perl6-synopsis] r11290 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2006-08-21 Thread larry
Author: larry Date: Mon Aug 21 09:39:51 2006 New Revision: 11290 Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S05.pod Log: Typo from Aaron Crane++ Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S05.pod == --- doc/trunk/design/syn/S05.pod(

Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r11287 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2006-08-21 Thread Aaron Crane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > +To pass a regex with leading whitespace you must use the parenthsized form. ... > +To pass a string with leading whitespace you must use the parenthsized form. Hi. I think that needs an s:g/parenthsized/parenthesized/ -- Aaron Crane

[svn:perl6-synopsis] r11287 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2006-08-21 Thread larry
Author: larry Date: Mon Aug 21 09:03:25 2006 New Revision: 11287 Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S05.pod doc/trunk/design/syn/S06.pod Log: Clarified that leading whitespace eats all subsequent whitespace. Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S05.pod ==

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Chip Salzenberg
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:48:59AM -0400, Will Coleda wrote: > The way you phrase the question, you're not going to get any of these > answers. Who is programming parrot on their *physical* VT100? =-). > The primary reason for an 80 column limit is developer convenience, I > think. Well, that

[perl #40162] [PATCH] parrot/trunk/docs/art/pp001-intro.pod - spelling

2006-08-21 Thread Will Coleda via RT
Thanks, applied as r14297.

[perl #40207] [PATCH] tools/dev/install_files.pl - replace tabs with spaces

2006-08-21 Thread Will Coleda via RT
Thanks, applied as r14296 In the future, please send patches relative to parrot root: http://www.parrotcode.org/docs/submissions.html This will make it easy to apply them. Thanks again!

Re: SKIPs Are Now a Code Smell

2006-08-21 Thread Chip Salzenberg
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 07:17:03PM -0700, chromatic wrote: > Thus, I suggest that we collectively unskip all of the tests that might > possibly pass on all platforms, tighten the skip conditions to their minimum > necessities, use TODO instead of SKIP absolutely everywhere possible, and > delete

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Will Coleda
The way you phrase the question, you're not going to get any of these answers. Who is programming parrot on their *physical* VT100? =-). The primary reason for an 80 column limit is developer convenience, I think. On the other hand, I think taking the preferences of the core developers in

Re: End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Alberto Simões
Hi all, Chip Salzenberg wrote: So ambs has been making a lot of source changes as suggested by t/distro/linelength.t. (And making them very well, I might add.) Given the nature of Parrot code, I think a bit wider would be OK. Would anyone currently hacking Parrot be significantly inconvenienc

End the Hollerith Tyranny? (linelength.t)

2006-08-21 Thread Chip Salzenberg
So ambs has been making a lot of source changes as suggested by t/distro/linelength.t. (And making them very well, I might add.) Given the nature of Parrot code, I think a bit wider would be OK. Would anyone currently hacking Parrot be significantly inconvenienced by having wider lines? BTW, th

[perl #40210] [TODO] Provide a way for PGE's dump to go to string

2006-08-21 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Will Coleda # Please include the string: [perl #40210] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=40210 > While the primary use of dump is for immediate debug output (and therefore puts is ok),

[perl #40209] [TODO] convert t/compilers/pge/p6regex/01-regex.t to PIR

2006-08-21 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Will Coleda # Please include the string: [perl #40209] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=40209 > Running these tests in PIR instead of perl will give us a speedup during 'make test', a

Parrot Bug Summary

2006-08-21 Thread Parrot Bug Summary
Parrot Bug Summary http://rt.perl.org/rt3/NoAuth/parrot/Overview.html Generated at Mon Aug 21 13:15:03 2006 GMT --- * Numbers * New Issues * Overview of Open Issues * Ticket Status By Version * Requestors with m

Re: multi-line comments, C macros, & Pod abuse

2006-08-21 Thread markjreed
I think this is not even a metaprogramming issue so much as a programming environment one. I mean, if your editor doesn't make it easy to stick a # at the beginning of a bunch of lines with one action, and likewise remove them later, you need to get a new editor. :) On 8/21/06, Joshua Hoblitt <[

[perl #40207] [PATCH] tools/dev/install_files.pl - replace tabs with spaces

2006-08-21 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Amir E. Aharoni # Please include the string: [perl #40207] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=40207 > A tiny cage-cleaning patch. AFFECTED FILE: tools/dev/install_files.pl FIX: replaced

Re: multi-line comments, C macros, & Pod abuse

2006-08-21 Thread Joshua Hoblitt
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 12:06:36AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 03:55:56PM -0600, Luke Palmer wrote: > > > Why would you care about introducing a new lexical scope? You would > > care about that if you used a variable you declared in the commented > > code in the code b

Re: [perl #39868] [CAGE] convert C NN; }> to C NN;>

2006-08-21 Thread Nuno Carvalho
Hi again, I've tried this patch again and fixed only one minor detail, here's the log of what i did: $ rm -rf t/ $ make realclean $ svn up (...) Updated to revision 14291. $ perl Configure.pl $ make $ make test 2>&1 | tee BEFORE_PATCH [apply patch] $ svn up At revision 14291. $ make test 2>&1

junctions and autothreading

2006-08-21 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
My study of Perl 6 has been rather sporadic until now, but i'm starting to catch up. Here's a question: I've seen the matter of "autothreading" mentioned in various places, usually together with junctions. It seems like a neat idea, thread safety concerns notwithstanding. Searching the mailing l

Re: Dumb doc question...

2006-08-21 Thread Agent Zhang
On 8/17/06, Thom Boyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/16/06, Agent Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/17/06, Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where can I find a pod2html that groks the p6 version of POD? I want > > to format my fresh-from-svn copies of the doc... > > > And ther