Re: [perl #41604] [BUG] pbc_output_is doesn't work?

2007-02-25 Thread Klaas-Jan Stol
Leopold Toetsch wrote: Am Samstag, 24. Februar 2007 17:05 schrieb Klaas-Jan Stol: it seems the .pbc files are stored in the repository is that desirable? Yes for these files. IMO, it would be enough to store the PIR only, and have that compiled to PBC If you have a

[perl #41608] [NEW] and [PATCH]: tools/build/ops2c.pl refactored

2007-02-25 Thread James Keenan via RT
Please substitute the two files attached for the identically named files in my previous posting in this thread. These two test files extend the test coverage (http://thenceforward.net/parrot/ coverage/). t/tools/ops2cutils/04-print_c_source_top.t t/tools/ops2cutils/05-print_c_source_bottom.t

[PATCH] Pynie updates

2007-02-25 Thread Klaas-Jan Stol
hi, attached a patch for languages/Pynie, adding: * more grammar rules * statement.t for testing statements -- kinda simple, should be extended * keyword rule, so that id's are not recognized as identifiers regards, kjs Index: languages/pynie/src/parser/Grammar.pg

[PATCH] welcome message and prompt for HLLCompiler

2007-02-25 Thread Klaas-Jan Stol
hi, most languages that can run in interactive mode have some kind of welcome message and prompt that is printed before the user can give any input. For example, Python prints: Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win 32 Type help, copyright,

Re: [PATCH] welcome message and prompt for HLLCompiler

2007-02-25 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:39:17PM +0100, Klaas-Jan Stol wrote: most languages that can run in interactive mode have some kind of welcome message and prompt that is printed before the user can give any input. Yes, this is helpful. But also one of the things we need is a way so that we can

Re: [PATCH] welcome message and prompt for HLLCompiler

2007-02-25 Thread Klaas-Jan Stol
Patrick R. Michaud wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:39:17PM +0100, Klaas-Jan Stol wrote: most languages that can run in interactive mode have some kind of welcome message and prompt that is printed before the user can give any input. Yes, this is helpful. But also one of the things

Weekly Perl 6 mailing list summary for 4-10 February, 2007

2007-02-25 Thread Ann Barcomb
This week on the Perl 6 mailing lists E ... I'm the one who *needs* the tutorial, not the one to write it. That makes you a prime person to capture the questions it needs to answer! You can't evade the Responsibility Ponies that easily. -- chromatic, responding to

Re: [PATCH] welcome message and prompt for HLLCompiler

2007-02-25 Thread Will Coleda
Nifty. FYI, in tcl, the two prompts can be overridden via a user defined procedure. See http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.5/UserCmd/tclsh.htm#M11 Be nice if this was also possible with the default tool. On Feb 25, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Klaas-Jan Stol wrote: Patrick R. Michaud wrote: On Sun, Feb

Re: [PATCH] welcome message and prompt for HLLCompiler

2007-02-25 Thread Klaas-Jan Stol
Will Coleda wrote: Nifty. FYI, in tcl, the two prompts can be overridden via a user defined procedure. See http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.5/UserCmd/tclsh.htm#M11 Be nice if this was also possible with the default tool. yup that should be possible as long as the language can access its own

Weekly Perl 6 mailing list summary for 11-17 February, 2007

2007-02-25 Thread Ann Barcomb
This week on the Perl 6 mailing lists Remember that the European Perl Hackathon will be held next weekend, from 2-4 March, 2007 in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Registration is open until Thursday, 1 March. For more information, please look at the hackathon website

What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Richard Hainsworth
When does the specification of perl6 come to an end? Are there criteria or milestones which define that the perl6 specification stage is at an end? I can see that setting a time line is not easy because the effort is volunteer based, but what about a conceptual end? Perhaps there could be a

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread chromatic
On Saturday 24 February 2007 22:42, Richard Hainsworth wrote: But while perl6 continues its evolution, without a tangible end, few are going to dedicate time and effort to write documentation for such as me. (eg. How out of date are the Exegesis files?) You could make a very similar argument

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread herbert breunung
hi richard (eg. How out of date are the Exegesis files?) very *g* just use the synopsis *g* herbert (proton-ce.sf.net) ___ Viren-Scan für Ihren PC! Jetzt für jeden. Sofort, online und kostenlos. Gleich testen!

Re: [perl #41601] [BUG] parrotbug b0rken

2007-02-25 Thread Jerome Quelin
On 07/02/24 12:00 +0100, Paul Cochrane wrote: parrotbug seems to be broken on win32. Actually, I think it's broken on all platforms. as parrotbug (the program) father, i'd like to add that i don't have time to work on it. (and it seems to show up) anyone wanting to work on it or even adopt it

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Carl Mäsak
herbert (), Richard (): (eg. How out of date are the Exegesis files?) very *g* just use the synopsis *g* Hm, it might actually be a good idea to port the code examples from the Exegeses to current Perl6, preferably also runnable in Pugs. The ported programs could be put under examples/ in

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread herbert breunung
or include a disclaimer that they are outdated as juerd sugested, or do both. anyway this is an issue since google finds the A and E first. im really intrested if im with juerd the only one here seeing this as an issue. thanks herbert proton-ce.sf.net herbert (), Richard (): (eg. How out of

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:42:22AM +0300, Richard Hainsworth wrote: While perl6 remains unstable in its specification (or is perceived to be that way) and is looking (from outside a select group?) like a unending road, wont this act as a deterrent to those who want to help hack it into

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Smylers
Richard Hainsworth writes: When does the specification of perl6 come to an end? At a guess: when it's implemented. Many of the recent changes have been made by Larry in response to his trying to write the grammer, and encountering problems. Perhaps there could be a perl6.0 specification,

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Jonathan Lang
Smylers wrote: Richard Hainsworth writes: When does the specification of perl6 come to an end? At a guess: when it's implemented. Many of the recent changes have been made by Larry in response to his trying to write the grammar, and encountering problems. With all due respect: Once the

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Larry Wall
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:42:22AM +0300, Richard Hainsworth wrote: : When does the specification of perl6 come to an end? Are there criteria : or milestones which define that the perl6 specification stage is at an end? It seems you are presuming a Waterfall model of development here. We're not

Packed array status?

2007-02-25 Thread Geoffrey Broadwell
What backends support packed native arrays at this point? And what's the performance like? Native access to packed arrays is the big thing I'm looking for before I port a pile of source filtered Perl 5 code to Perl 6. It's a simple 3D engine, so all of the libraries I need to work with want to

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Geoffrey Broadwell
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 12:15 -0800, Jonathan Lang wrote: I submit that you'll have even more luck discouraging such things if you can give a reasonable and believable timeline as to when the 6.0 spec will be ready and perl 6.1 features can start being considered. As I mentioned in another

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:56, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: As I mentioned in another thread, but didn't make clear in that email: I don't need a finished spec.  I need the *current* version of spec to actually be mostly implemented. The implementors want the same thing. And if it's not

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Geoffrey Broadwell
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 13:26 -0800, chromatic wrote: On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:56, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: As I mentioned in another thread, but didn't make clear in that email: I don't need a finished spec. I need the *current* version of spec to actually be mostly implemented.

[perl #41617] make test-pir fails on x86 linux, r14402

2007-02-25 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Eric Hanchrow # Please include the string: [perl #41617] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=41617 Here's what I did: $ svn co -r14402 http://svn.pugscode.org/pugs pugs $ cd pugs $

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 25 February 2007 13:57, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: I'm not trying to say that the implementors should rush either, nor am I complaining about current status; I grok the dynamics of volunteer code. I merely disagree with the spec is all-important crowd.  I personally have a preference

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Smylers
Jonathan Lang writes: Smylers wrote: Richard Hainsworth writes: When does the specification of perl6 come to an end? At a guess: when it's implemented. Many of the recent changes have been made by Larry in response to his trying to write the grammar, and encountering

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Geoffrey Broadwell
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 14:16 -0800, chromatic wrote: On Sunday 25 February 2007 13:57, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: I'm not trying to say that the implementors should rush either, nor am I complaining about current status; I grok the dynamics of volunteer code. I merely disagree with the spec

Re: Packed array status?

2007-02-25 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:40, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: What backends support packed native arrays at this point? And what's the performance like? Parrot does have ManagedStruct and UnManagedStruct PMCs for mapping complex C structures. The syntax to define them is a little grotty, but

Re: [perl #41614] Can't set non-core object attribs yet

2007-02-25 Thread Alek Storm
The problem is that a Sub is not a ParrotObject, so it has nowhere to store attributes. That's why attr_str_2_num throws Can't set non-core object attribs: it can't safely use PMC_data unless you've passed a ParrotObject. I've attached a patch that implements a basic attribute storage system

Re: [perl #41364] [PATCH] Fixed object vtable method overrides in PIR

2007-02-25 Thread Alek Storm
Now that 0.4.9 has been released, can this be committed? Thanks, Alek Storm On 2/19/07, Alek Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the head start; now I know to include a test in the future. Here is an updated version of your patch, with various minor fixes. On 2/17/07, Allison Randal